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Line 6 HX Stomp
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A buddy of mine runs a studio and has an old Eventide Harmonizer rack processor that sounds absolutely HUGE when I run bass (especially fretless) through it to create a slight detune (actually two detuned voices on different sides) and stereo spread. This effect was used on countless recordings in the late-70s and early-80s on every instrument (including drums and vocals). The "Dual Pitch" block in Helix is essentially an emulation of a basic Eventide Harmonizer. It doesn't sound/function as nice as the original, but gets the basic functionality- it definitely works best in stereo though (in mono there can be some noticeable phasing with bass depending on settings). Any of the basic pitch-shifters set with a little bit of detune can work pretty well too for a non-modulated chorusing sound in mono.
This is the way. Buy once. Cry once.
Regarding power supplies, the trutone cs6 can do 18v and power the stomp from just one output, and they include the adapter cable for the odd 2.5mm stomp input.
Sweetwater had a sale for a DC7 that came with a stomp adapter. Got it a few weeks ago. Not sure if it's still on sale, but works great!
Thanks for all the suggestions!!
I’m torn between a Cioks DC7 and a Truetone CS12. Everyone here loves Cioks, which is a good sign! Any reason for that? Why’d you go Cioks over Truetone, etc?
I’m having a hard time discerning if the DC7 could be enough power. I have an HX Stomp, 4 pedals with a low power draw (one of which requires 18v), and a POG which requires 300ma.
Also, why the decision to DC7 and a Crux and not just go the the DC10?
I’m torn between a Cioks DC7 and a Truetone CS12. Everyone here loves Cioks, which is a good sign! Any reason for that? Why’d you go Cioks over Truetone, etc?
I’m having a hard time discerning if the DC7 could be enough power. I have an HX Stomp, 4 pedals with a low power draw (one of which requires 18v), and a POG which requires 300ma.
Also, why the decision to DC7 and a Crux and not just go the the DC10?
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I may be wrong but my impression is the Truetone is thicker. I know a Cioks will fit under a Nano size board without modifying the feet.
I’m using a Temple Audio board with a Cioks Hi5 Mod. I could either use two of the five outputs for the HX, or I could keep all five for other pedals, and use the 24V DC tap for a Crux that powers the HX separately. In my case it was a no-brainer.
A DC10 has more outlets but it's far less current per outlet. 100mA for most of them.
The newer range (DC7 etc) are 660mA at 9 volts. The DC7/8/4 and SOL have far more output and flexibility with voltages. Super low profile also. When I did my comparisons before changing power supplies, Cioks were a mile in front for my needs YMMV IMO etc
I have a HXS on a Nano currently with a Cioks 4 being run with a 24VDC 1.5A power supply. it is also powering a GLXD16+ & TC Spark off another outlet, and a Bergantino Super Pre off the 4th outlet. Does it no worries.
I have both Truetone CS6 and Cioks DC7. The Cioks supplies I’ve known after nearly 15 years of using them to be stout and reliable (never an issue at all, my Cioks AC10 from 2010 still works perfectly after heavy use that whole time and I’ve actually never heard of a supply of theirs failing) while past Truetone OneSpot products (same tech in their CS boxes) I’ve used have always failed eventually. There have been a few accounts of using a Truetone with a Stomp from a single output in this thread and it killing one of the outputs for what it’s worth, so may be worth still using a current doubler with it to be safe. Both supplies are great, the price of the Truetone supplies is part of their value.
I use a CS6 on a Metro, if I went bigger, I'd definitely buy the CS12 to use with my stomp.
The modern Cioks units are popular because they offer a lot of juice per output and each output is switchable 9/12/15/18 volts. Together with either a current doubler or voltage doubler you can power almost anything. Add to that the modular option to chain the 8 or 4 on the 24v output and the usb output and you're looking at a very rich feature set. On top of that, it's very slim and reliable.
I use a DC7 with a Stomp, an old OC2 on a 12v outlet, a LA-1A on a set of 12v outputs and various pedals on either 9 or 18 volts. With all that, the 40% load indicator barely lights up.
I have no experience with the CS12 and it probably does a fine job as well. For me though, the flexibility of the DC7 is perfect for my needs.
Has anyone messed with the sag and bias parameters on the SVT amp model when setting up a live rig and playing through a real cab? Ive found the stock settings to have less noticeable low end compared to a real SVT unless i changed them all to 50%. Just curious if anyone else noticed this or did something different to get a better result.
Has anybody in this group set up a computer and run HS Native live? I am curious if that is doable and if the latency would be too much?
Not personally, but I know of people who have. It all depends on your computer and interface, really.
Most notably, David Maxim Micic (amazing Serbian composer and guitar player) did a whole short tour using Helix Native a few years ago.
