Line 6 HX Stomp

[rcmbass]

Awesome. Sounds like I have some work to do!

I know that Line 6 gives a list of what each effect is meant to emulate, do you know if that list or another one explains the parameters of each effect and what they do?

See list of HX Stomp effects here:

Line 6 Helix Models | Helix Help

This is the most comprehensive list of models and blocks that you can find for every amp, cab, distortion, modulation, pitch, and other effects found on the Line 6 Helix, Helix Rack, Helix LT, HX Stomp, HX Stomp XL, HX Effects, and Helix Native.

helixhelp.com

 

[aguacateojos]

I played a gig last night with a rock band in a small, very live room - brought my Genz Benz amp and 1x12 cab, ran a board with tuner + Empress Comp + Stomp with a patch that was just the Noble preset and a global HPF setting and it sounded killer.

Excellent first outing.

Edit - next steps are to continue learning how to program, and determining how the Shift Line Olympic might fit into this puzzle.

 

[SteveC]

I still have room for an Empress. I’m going with a new tweak to my standard preset (a lot like the one above - Noble and some eq) with some compression into a Khan and see how it goes. I’m trying to not buy an Empress again, but it may come to that.

 

[Pelagic]

The MXR BOD just has two different analog single octave down voices that can be blended together- one is similar to the Boss OC-2 (Growl, which is dirtier and more midrangey), one is similar to the EBS Octabass (Girth, which is more subby/midrange-scooped and clean).
The “Mid” switch is an adjustable midrange boost on the clean signal, and a cool concept as you can turn the clean signal down low and engage the Mid switch for added articulation that doesn’t sound disconnected from the octave signal.

Running two different octaves on parallel paths in the Stomp is easy enough- you could have the EBS clone on one path (Legacy Bass Octaver) and the OC-2 clone on another (Boctaver). Neither is an exact match with the MXR sounds but worth a try. If you just want that clean mid boost, set up a single Octaver path in parallel with a clean blend path with a mid-boost EQ block

For reference, this was the answer. Parallel loops eq’d differently with a bit of chorus is exactly what I was looking for. I can add dirt through my sushi box Underground Accelerator and it gets super synthy!

 

[fivestringgecko]

Welp, that definitely got me way closer in a read through than where I was just stabbing in the dark! Thanks again! Knowing what the parameters actually do is HUGE!

Looks like @bassvirtuoso got you all squared away on that!

A bonus tip on the envelope filter subject:
Add a phaser after the filter block for some extra juicy filter sounds!

5sg.

 

[aguacateojos]

@fivestringgecko my memory might be failing me right now, but are your filter files uploaded anywhere currently? The old Dropbox link isn't working.

 

[fivestringgecko]

@fivestringgecko my memory might be failing me right now, but are your filter files uploaded anywhere currently? The old Dropbox link isn't working.

I wondered about that. I did double check this morning and the folder/files are still there. I wonder if something changed on Dropbox's end? Check the link below and post back about it? If it doesn't work, I'll swap them over to Google Drive.

HX Stomp Auto Filter presets

You should see two presets, one each for Up filters and Down filters. Each preset has multiple blocks with different settings that you can test out individually.

5sg.

 

[Karl Kaminski]

Thanks @fivestringgecko!

yup the dropbox is working

 

[fivestringgecko]

Glad to help out, I know the AutoFilter is a bit of a beast. But it's worth getting to know how it works, because you can really get any filter sound you want out of it.

5sg.

 

[David Pinton]

Just a quick note to add that, in addition to everything else it does, the Stomp XL is an AWESOME audio interface.
So cool!!!!

 

[Pelagic]

Glad to help out, I know the AutoFilter is a bit of a beast. But it's worth getting to know how it works, because you can really get any filter sound you want out of it.

5sg.

Thanks again for posting. I said it before. I'll say it again. Your work with the Source Audio stuff amazed me and now this? Awesome! Thanks again (dropbox link is working and added to favorites for as soon as I get home! lol)

 

[Mr. voodoobass]

I just gotta say, what always work for me in a band setting into whatever I put it into.
Mic pre for some boost between different basses and hpf
Teemah for two different drive settings in freq split
Svt normal
It just works everytime.

 

[aguacateojos]

Pedalnetics add-on just arrived! Will have to tinker when I get home.

 

[aguacateojos]

Easy to get the add-on programmed to scroll up and down through patches! I might leave it like that for now, then use an external tuner to free up the third foot switch.

 

[rcmbass]

I have an Aguilar Tone Hammer and an HX Stomp. Most worship pedal boards I see have some kind of overdrive and fuzz.

Has anyone successfully used the HX Stomp for their overdrive and fuzz instead of separate pedals?

If you have been using HX Stomp patches, which ones?

 

[FronTowardEnemy]

I have an Aguilar Tone Hammer and an HX Stomp. Most worship pedal boards I see have some kind of overdrive and fuzz.

Has anyone successfully used the HX Stomp for their overdrive and fuzz instead of separate pedals?

If you have been using HX Stomp patches, which ones?

I have been using Teemah and Obsidian combined and separate for OD/Distirtion tones. Works great. I have a pedalnetics two button top mount FS that I programmed in the control center to toggle between snapshots while in stomp mode. It really opened up great tone possibilities while performing live.

I haven’t bothered much with fuzz though.

 

[Parzival]

I have an Aguilar Tone Hammer and an HX Stomp. Most worship pedal boards I see have some kind of overdrive and fuzz.

Has anyone successfully used the HX Stomp for their overdrive and fuzz instead of separate pedals?

If you have been using HX Stomp patches, which ones?

I’ve been wondering if folks are just using driven amp/preamp models as a drive. I haven’t gotten into mine far enough to try that out.

 

[silky smoove]

For me it’s the Obsidian in a parallel path. It’s a Darkglass clone that I like better than all of the actual Darkglass pedals I've owned.

 

[MartinB]

Has anyone successfully used the HX Stomp for their overdrive and fuzz instead of separate pedals?

Yep. Some of the Distortion blocks lose a fair bit of low end because they're based on guitar pedals; they benefit from being in a split, to blend them with a clean signal, and/or some EQ afterwards.

I'm currently using (in different presets):
- Minotaur (split with EQ after)
- Dhyana
- Clawthorn Drive (this one's useful because keeping the OD Gain low means that the overdrive signal is effectively a "clean" signal, which can be blended with the fuzz side)

Studio Tube Pre is nice for valve-like drive. Easily missed because it's under Preamp > Mic.

 

[fivestringgecko]

I have been using Teemah and Obsidian combined and separate for OD/Distirtion tones. Works great. I have a pedalnetics two button top mount FS that I programmed in the control center to toggle between snapshots while in stomp mode. It really opened up great tone possibilities while performing live.

I haven’t bothered much with fuzz though.

For me it’s the Obsidian in a parallel path. It’s a Darkglass clone that I like better than all of the actual Darkglass pedals I've owned.

The Teemah is my go-to drive in the Stomp, and I use it for everything from low-gain "barely there" to medium-high drive tones. Highly versatile with the bass/treble cut controls.

And I agree with Silky about the Obsidian. I've tried pretty much every flavor of actual Darkglass drives, and have never vibed with any of them. The Obsidian took a bit of tweaking to get it where I actually wanted it, but now I actually like it... and much better than the real thing.

@MartinB - Good reminder... I've been meaning to try out that Studio Pre for ages.

5sg.