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Live shows too loud

...just about every time we mixed an act whose members were over the age of about 55 or their crowd was they wanted to nothing to do with low end but were cool with as much ear-splitting hi-frequencies as you could give. I think it was a byproduct of growing up with sound reinforcement equipment that couldn't reproduce low frequencies well/loudly.

It might also be their high frequency hearing loss.
 
You can cover up a lot of mistakes with volume.

I saw Elvis Costello back in June at the Tower Theater in Philly and the volume was ridiculously loud. You could feel the bass (not a bad thing) but it was so loud you couldn't distinguish the notes. The overall mix was terrible and would have been improved if they'd just turned it down a little.
Plus,their replacement for Bruce Thomas is a way simpler player,who tends to have a muddy sound. I went to that club show in Memphis that they taped,and the bass sound was :poop:.
 
This guy was pretty happy that it wasn't a battle. Once he muted those channels i basically said, in quite an incredulous tone "that's all stage sound" and then went and did some refunds.

Just to clarify, the battles I was referring to were with the stage volume, not with the venue management (mostly). :D

What is even harder to deal with than the whole band being really loud on stage is one member being ridiculously louder than everyone else. At least if everyone is too loud you can still achieve some sort of balance. :D
 
Just to clarify, the battles I was referring to were with the stage volume, not with the venue management (mostly). :D

What is even harder to deal with than the whole band being really loud on stage is one member being ridiculously louder than everyone else. At least if everyone is too loud you can still achieve some sort of balance. :D

The easiest bands to mix, sometimes, are the ones that mix themselves well without sound reinforcement.
 
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The easiest bands to mix, sometimes, are the ones that mix themselves well without sound reinforcement.

Agreed totally. Bands that can manage their stage sounds well before adding sound reinforcement are the best. Even with reinforcement they essentially mix themselves. There are a couple of local bands that I just love to mix because they have their stuff so together. I always tell them that they make my job really easy.
 
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All the bands in my town have always been too loud to me. I started going to shows at 16 and i'm 25 now. I love listening to live music but it's always mush. The last time I tried talking to people it was in a small coffee shop I got "well it's a small room. If they opened the back doors it would be better." they were playing with a full drum kit and an 8x10 bass cab.
 
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