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Looking for a big fat Envelope Filter pedal

I really like my Pigtronix Envelope Phaser...though it's no t a filter it can be run after any pedal if the trigger input (taken early in your effects chain) is used.

what does this mean?

It means you can run it after a compressor/limiter, delay pedal, heavy fuzz etc. and still get your dynamics followed.

There must be some kind of envelope filter that will do this.

Anyone?
 
i'm not sure about the IE xero deluxe ... it's very hard to predict cause it reacts differently to my basses, and it reacts differently depending on the other pedals chained on to it - even when those pedals are bypassed.

i got a good fat sound off it a few years back, but then i added pedals and changed the arrangement of my pedals, i suddenly cant get that sound back.

its a bit unpredictable, but if you have your set-up right, it is gonna work
 
M82 sounded a little thin to me, am I wrong? .

To my ears too, at first. This pedal does take a bit of tweaking in order to find one's tone. I started from the manual "bottom dweller" settings and finally settled on this (o'clock, left to right): 12-1-2-12-2, all ishes and more wah than filter. I wouldn't dare say it's the fattest around, but it works well in my set-up.
 
SA BEF and BEF pro look great, but big... I can't fit either one on my current board. I'm going to wait for the Soundblox 2 version to come out. I'm already getting some cool enveloped phaser sounds out of the Orbital, so I'm sure it will be great.

I have both the "normal" and the "pro" version... And I will buy the Soundblox2 the minute is out as well... Hopefully soon!!! :) come on Source Audio, make it happen :D

I find them more easily controllable than just about any other pedal I have tried, and they retain volume and bottom end.
They just sound good no matter what you do.

I have a Proton too, which sounds great... But it's very sensitive. Set it right for fingerstyle, and slap will lose some bottom end. Combine it with other pedals, and you have to ensure you tweak the levels just right so that it does not become too deep or too bright. It's just very sensitive. Too much even.
The Source Audio ones respond in a friendlier manner and you don't need to tweak and retweak to ensure it works well with other pedals.

I use the proton when space is an issue and just need one pedal, but the SA are on my pedalboards and are my favourite ones.
 
Most wobble chains have other key elements which can add in "digital-like sound" (as Bongo points out), such as synth, distortion, and bit crushing.



By the way, with one of our pedals it is possible to create pure digital clipping as an effect (Classic Distortion Pro, Clean Boost, Drive turned up). It actually sounded good enough to deliberately leave it in the pedal as an option rather than prevent it from happening (I know, high risk!!). One day we are going to do a demo video so that digital clipping can be a tone which is more clearly identified.


I don't actually play dubstep...I play in an indie psychedelic blues-rock jam band. I just want to add a funky pedal to my chain, but want it to be smooth and subtle, as that fits my style. When I want to add something more intense, I have my Team Awesome Fuzzmachine for that. And I do have two digital pedals, a boss dd7 and a ph3. They serve their respective purposes, but I don't love them nearly as much as my Fuzzmachine. Just missing that x-factor.
 
He wasn't actually saying there was a comparison post to read, he was just dropping the name of somebody famous who has used both pedals.


Oh hahaha I'm so disappointed now...I guess if I could list my top three right now it would be the Filter Twin first, then the Wonderlove and the Super Fatman right behind, mainly due to price. Can anyone compare the Wonderlove to the Fatman? They're both more tweakable than the Filter Twin, but I want to make sure the sound is worth that extra hundred bucks.
 
You may also like the Pigtronix Bass Envelope Phaser. I loved it too...very fat and thick with more of a 'peeyoowww' sound to it (yes that's the technical term!) I sold that one only because I didn't use it enough to justify having a whole special set of adapters just to run that one 18v pedal. Otherwise it would have a permanent home with me. If that's no concern to you, check it out too.

Maybe it makes a tonal difference but it CAN run at 9v too !

I recently got a Wonderlove. With its many knobs and switches to tweak it is not a plug & play pedal, however there are great sounds to be squeezed out of the box.
I don't think you could justify the price difference with the Aguilar (which I tried too long ago to make a valid comparison) based solely on sound quality. It all depends whether you prefer a pretty much dialed in tone or experimenting to find your own.
Edit : The 3leaf's relay switch is nice too - and would cost you ~20$ and some soldering to upgrade the Aguilar with.
 
Maybe it makes a tonal difference but it CAN run at 9v too !

Nope, it cannot. It requires 18volts. Trust me. It even comes with an 18v power supply. Dave at Pigtronix said the 9v print on the pedal was a mistake. It now says only 18v on the pedal:

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