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Lost the rhythm

Jaycat

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Sep 8, 2018
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Hi gang. Every Sunday I play (electric) bass at a bluegrass jam. Lots of fun and I usually do well holding down the beat. (Solos are another thing, I'm kinda hit and miss).

Yesterday, however, I was having trouble finding my rhythm, at first anyway. One thing is, we had about 15 people playing, as opposed to the usual 8 or 9. I think that made it harder to nail things down.

What is your secret to keeping a steady beat when those all around you are going off in all different directions?
 
One thing is, we had about 15 people playing, as opposed to the usual 8 or 9. I think that made it harder to nail things down.
I wouldn't give it any more thought than this. It only takes one player being a little off in their timing to make the beat ambiguous and sow confusion. The more players there are, the more likely it is that one of them will be a little off. It's just math.
 
Take your tempo and changes cues from the vocalist or soloist if possible. Yes everyone ought to be able to hold a consistent tempo following the chord changes accurately, but th ebottom line is bass is 99.9997% of the time a support instrument. So support the main melody line by following what they are doing. If the singer goes into the chorus early, go into the chorus and support them. If the singer wants to speed up the verse a bit to make it flow better for their voice, go with it. No one wins when someone puts down their foot and insists on playing the song in the chart over the song on the stage.
 
Move your body: Tap your foot; bop your head; dip your shoulders back and forth; stomp; dance... do some sort of repetitive body movement. Rhythm is a body movement thing. Bass is a body movement thing. Counting helps too, but i'm of the opinion that body movement is a more reliable tempo measure. If you're bobbing your head and shaking your shoulders back and forth, you can physically feel if you have to change direction too abruptly or too slowly. You can physically feel if you're not landing the notes on your body movements. If you're hitting the 2 but you're somewhere in between shoulder-sways, you're not hitting the 2.

You said it's bluegrass so even odds there's not a drummer or there is one. If there is a drummer and you feel you're getting lost, only play when the kick drum kicks. If there is no drummer, the bass is the drums. When there's 15, or even "only" 9 musicians playing at the same time, play less. Just hit the downbeats, and maybe fret-clack the back-beat. Send the band a big booming "THIS IS THE 1" bass note to the whole band so that everyone else knows where the rhythm is, and it's your rhythm.

The thing you can't really control is what everyone else does when there's that many players. Ideally, they'll all be following the bass (and drums if drums). And ideally the more musicians there are, the more space everyone will leave. But, musicians being musicians, there's a good chance everyone is finding all the empty spaces and filling in all the empty spaces with all the notes. But, if you're holding down the rhythm and really broadcasting the downbeats, and the other musicians lose the rhythm, that's on them. If there are enough decent players there, they'll recognize your solid rhythm through the chaos of 15 players and hopefully find a home there, and then the other players will have an easier time finding it too.
 
Fifteen strangers playing loud instruments in an aural tradition? No way do I want to be the one on bass trying to hold that all together.

One rushed run on banjo or mandolin, and the whole thing is a runaway train. The best bassist among us couldn't ease it gracefully into the station.
 
Hi gang. Every Sunday I play (electric) bass at a bluegrass jam. Lots of fun and I usually do well holding down the beat. (Solos are another thing, I'm kinda hit and miss).

Yesterday, however, I was having trouble finding my rhythm, at first anyway. One thing is, we had about 15 people playing, as opposed to the usual 8 or 9. I think that made it harder to nail things down.

What is your secret to keeping a steady beat when those all around you are going off in all different directions?

In blue grass, the bass- you are the one beat.They can all go off to where ever they care, you are the down beat. Hold the line and meter.