I do not get off on over-choreographed stuff. I enjoy more natural and honest talent. Miley-stuff in a different language is still just memorized moves and over produced BS. Nothing great to see here; not for me anyway.
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Love or hate the genre, they are talented.
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Performing is a talent in itself. I often watch a particular 2015 live concert vid of Babymetal up on YouKu; the band plays for over an hour, with a few shred solo breaks and choreographed moves. I know it would take me a lot of time to learn to do what they do - it's a talent.
wahh, no one likes the music I make! They aren't willing to pay for stuff they don't want or enjoy!
No matter how much backing something has, if people don't like it, it won't succeed. There are tons of artists that get the industry push and never catch popularity.
I find it interesting that you chose this band in particular, since this band, which produced bubble gum pop, was made up of guys who were Berkely cats and Zappa alumni; Guys who were extremely studied and could play anything.... and one former stripper.
I was focused primarily on Dale Bozzio's vocal timbre, quality and style, which I think share some similarities to those of BabyMetal including the propensity for squeaks and gibberish.
Although the musicians in Missing Person's were extremely studied and competent, Dale (IMHO) was a weak singer who got by primarily on looks, attitude and style. Don't get me wrong, she was perfect for the material on Spring Session M. I think it was a great album.
To be fair the lead singer in BabyMetal seems far more competent than Dale, but I think her musical talent pales in comparison to that of the members of the Kami Band. I also think style and cuteness are far more important to BabyMetal's success than their vocal talent. In all honesty, I am not convinced the girls have great stage presence. Most of what they do seems choreographed rather than spontaneous.
BABYMETAL is fun. I find the music catchy, and a combination of elements I already enjoy, in a way I hadn't heard before. I like watching the music videos for the cool/entertaining visuals, and like the little cultural Japanese additions. The live concert videos are entertaining and make me feel kinda happy; the music is more than the standard depressing "metalz" everyone is doing for the last decade, the musicians are good, and the 3 girls have great crowd management and stage presence. Also one of the only metal bands that the bartenders at my local watering hole don't mind when we put it on. DO LIKE, THUMBS UP.
This is pretty listenable.
There is way way worse music out there. I would not change the radio if this came on.
There is way way worse music out there. I would not change the radio if this came on.
Wow, this thread blew right up. Typical TalkBass: lots of over-analyzing.
Baby Metal is not my kind of thing, but it's good in a produced Blue Man Group kind of way, and I can appreciate the work that goes into the choreography and rehearsing of a production like that.
Plus it's fun to show it to people just to get a reaction.
I have no idea why anyone would use this thread as an excuse to rant about...anything. But it's TalkBass after all, and that is what we do here.
Baby Metal is not my kind of thing, but it's good in a produced Blue Man Group kind of way, and I can appreciate the work that goes into the choreography and rehearsing of a production like that.
Plus it's fun to show it to people just to get a reaction.
I have no idea why anyone would use this thread as an excuse to rant about...anything. But it's TalkBass after all, and that is what we do here.
Lets see, metal typically appeals to young guys. We combine technical metal chops with good looking ladies up front, put some money behind it and people are surprised young dudes dig it........
I know the dance stuff wasn't what I dug growing up but lets see what we had added to our rock in the 80's....The above mentioned Missing Persons, Pat Benatar, Lita Ford, etc. I may not dig Baby Metal, but sorry guys, young dudes who like metal will always enjoy talented (or not) front ladies who look nice.....
I know the dance stuff wasn't what I dug growing up but lets see what we had added to our rock in the 80's....The above mentioned Missing Persons, Pat Benatar, Lita Ford, etc. I may not dig Baby Metal, but sorry guys, young dudes who like metal will always enjoy talented (or not) front ladies who look nice.....
If Southpark has not yet done a parody episode of BABYMETAL, how long before they do make one?
Yeah, the more I listen, the more I like. I'm 57 years old. Do I need a mental health professional?
I'm not going to over-analyze it, but I did a little research. The drummer and guitarist are bona-fide speed shred bad-asses. What are they tracking? A few vocals? Maybe a harmonizer on the guitar?
Who the hell cares?
I never much cared for speed metal, but I've been a bubble gum pop music junky since the late 50's, pretty much when the genre began. The Asians have the guts and the urgency in their delivery to make stuff like this happen. It's a bolder musical and visual statement than we're making here in the USA, and arguably more entertaining.
I'm not going to over-analyze it, but I did a little research. The drummer and guitarist are bona-fide speed shred bad-asses. What are they tracking? A few vocals? Maybe a harmonizer on the guitar?
Who the hell cares?
I never much cared for speed metal, but I've been a bubble gum pop music junky since the late 50's, pretty much when the genre began. The Asians have the guts and the urgency in their delivery to make stuff like this happen. It's a bolder musical and visual statement than we're making here in the USA, and arguably more entertaining.
I see some comments saying this Babymetal is unique and fresh. It sounds like late 90s early 2000s Power Metal sung in Japanese. I mean...I guess it's unique because of the pop vocals but they put pop vocals in "Metal" back in the 1980s too *shrug*
I totally agree...The choreography in the videos I watched seemed more cute than oversexed like much of what we are used to. I can't quite figure out how to say it, but watching them was kinda like watching something being shown by a proud parent. Something done well, but still amateurish and innocent in a way. I kinda love the irony of pairing the innocence with metal.
Regarding the revenues...surely a fine example of capitalism.
I have no shame saying I heard baby metal and like them. The music is great and honestly the poppy vocals work well and add something different to metal. I read that Marty Friedman said American pop songs usually have 6 chords and Japanese pop will have about 64. No joke over there, I will admit the little school girls who are kids was weird and still is a little but the music is top notch.
I think this essentially is common bubble gum pop in Japan. We just don't understand it in it's true cultural context.
You and I are pretty much eye to eye on this... As I sit here listening to Dan Tyminski... hahaha...
What genre is it? Choreography-core?
Their vocals are exceptionally steady ... prefect even ... for all the jumping around, often while "singing". Karaoke-core.
Their vocals are exceptionally steady ... prefect even ... for all the jumping around, often while "singing". Karaoke-core.
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