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MarkBass with DB?

Discussion in 'Amps, Mics & Pickups [DB]' started by karlgustav, Dec 19, 2005.


  1. karlgustav

    karlgustav

    Aug 30, 2005
    Europe,Estonia
    Is anyone gigging with a Markbass head or combo?
    I saw happy bass players on the BG side of the forum.But how is it working with DB?

    that question came up pecause I am looking for a head +cabinet combination to replace my KG MB150s .I need more power,headroom,and different cabinet combinations.

    what would you use if you need one rig for DB and BG?
     
  2. Ric Vice

    Ric Vice Supporting Member

    Jul 2, 2005
    Olivette, Missouri
    Karl,
    I don't know wheather this would be a problem or not but the Mark Bass amplifiers have input impedances of 500 kOhms. You would definitely need a buffer preamp with those heads. I'm not aware that they have a distributor in the United States as yet, but I could be wrong. Warranty Repair could get pretty costly between
    continents if you're amplifier had to be repaired.

    Interestingly enough, you're MB 150s has a 1 meg Ohm input impediance which makes it much more compatable with most piezo pickups. It looks like most of the GK line has a 1 meg Ohm input. So this might be the way to go for a single rig.

    Ric



    Ric
     
  3. karlgustav

    karlgustav

    Aug 30, 2005
    Europe,Estonia
    thank you for the tought

    but what you sed about distribution in US really does not apply in my case as I live in Europe.
    I saw froem your profile that you´r useing WW,wich is naturally on top of the great amp head list,but what would be something under 500 usd (used,street price),that you would recomend?
    or what would be a good pre?
     
  4. Lemon

    Lemon

    May 9, 2005
    Hi,
    im in the same situation, I got to get a amp.
    I wanted EA i amp500 first, the EQ is nice on that one. and I tryed it with a whizzy cab, EQ all flat through a stratb. It soundet really good
    But im also in Europe and one i amp costs me as much as a markbass with a cab, if it breaks .....
    and one good point markbass has a balanced XLR in !!!!!!
    The EQ section is'nt as versatile as the i amp but I could get a good sound.
    if you put something like a Presonus EQ3B between it will be pretty much all you need. I tryed the amp with a other cab and also the 15 mini combo and the 12 mini combo.
    the amp is good for shure, but the speaker of the combos sound very hard especialy the 12mini. I guess it is also because the
    Cabinet / Driver configuration.
    It works but it is really not much air in there and the port goes out of the backside........ not good.
    I know that there are Drivers witch can work with a very small volume, but there is some limits and drawbacks to it.
    the 12 mini soundet very good with BG. not really a super low bass but very clear, punchy and loooooud !!!!
    if you have a 2 12 cab at 4 ohm its dangerous for the ears i think.
    its a very strong amp. I think it is the same with all those new amps no loss in heat and power almost down where the amp usually would shortcircuit, meaning delivering stable current even @ very very low impedances.
    That hard sound could also be from the cone material and the way the whole driver is made. a other thing I didnt like is the hiss of the piezo tweeter. The hiss was much less almost gone with a other cab.
    I would get the amp and try to find a good cab.
    I think the EA Whizzy cab is really good.
    that has to do with the type of driver wich is in there and maybe some with what they call TML. But I doubth that it is really a tml. I think it is more like a Bassreflex box. It is in a way the same.

    Did any one ever see the inside of it ?
    how long is that port ???
    30 cm ? ( 1foot)
    120 cm ? (4 foot)
    210 cm ? (7 foot)
    If its 1 foot /30 cm its closer to bassreflex
    if its 120cm we could call it a TML.
    i might be wrong with the Whizzy not being a TML but i would be surprised if that is the case.

    where are you in Europe ?
    Im working on a cab with a 12* fullangedriver I dont know how its going .to sound, but the simulations looked pretty good.
    if you want more infos about it you can pm me

    I hope that helps.
     
  5. Looking for the best price to buy the Markbass LMK head I came across Acoustic Image. Have a look at them: These are especially build for DB. I cannot try them here in Europe. But the reviews only gave me enough confidence to order the Focus III 2R without trying.
    http://www.acousticimg.com
    And use 12" cabs with DB. They are perfectly fit for the job.
     
  6. Ric Vice

    Ric Vice Supporting Member

    Jul 2, 2005
    Olivette, Missouri
    Karl,
    Walter Woods are very nice amplifiers, but they come at a premimum price. I think at this time I would reccommend a GK MBE or MBS heads. They are very reasonable and have a 1 meg ohm input that will work with most piezos. They are small, light weight,and have Direct outs. GK Makes a MBX cabinet that is also
    very inexpensive.

    Ric
     
  7. macmrkt

    macmrkt Banned

    Dec 4, 2002
    I tried a MarkBass LMII with their Traveler 102P cabinet for a short while with DB. The sound was excellent. I went straight in with a Full Circle pickup. Eventhough its rated at 500K ohms in put impedance, it worked great. I'll post more on this very affordable and seemingly excellent product when I do more tests.
     
  8. ZuluFunk

    ZuluFunk

    Apr 14, 2001
    Pennsylvania
    I'm using a Thunderfunk TB550 on a BagEnd 210.

    The Timbre control is a great control that can thin things out a bunch or add huge lows with one twist...no other adjustments needed.

    If I need to drop out the bottom to keep the DB from booming, it takes about 0.000243 seconds.

    It also has a clean/dirty channel...I don't use it much though, the dirty side that is.

    But, overall, it's like 15lbs and 500w and matches up with any of the similar switching units.
     
  9. bolo

    bolo

    May 29, 2005
    Apex, NC
  10. Greg Clinkingbeard

    Greg Clinkingbeard

    Apr 4, 2005
    Kansas City area
    Setup and repair/KRUTZ Strings
    I just got a LMII head from ctregan and have spent some time with it at home. So far, it's a real winner for both DB and electric. My two DB's, one with a Realist and the other a Full Circle both sound great straight in with the EQ flat. I believe the tone is more neutral than the Focus which always sounded overly middy, and then muddy as the volume increased. Will know more with some real world experience.

    Doubling? My active bass straight into the effects return works great. The main input is available for DB.

    As much as I have liked and trusted AI, it may be time to move on.
     
  11. old-fashioned

    old-fashioned

    Mar 25, 2005
    Ankara
    I'm curious about the balanced (XLR) input that LMIII has. Have you tried it with your DB? The manual says "it allows the head to accommodate for all kinds of acoustic bass pickup systems".
     
  12. Greg Clinkingbeard

    Greg Clinkingbeard

    Apr 4, 2005
    Kansas City area
    Setup and repair/KRUTZ Strings
    Nope. It lacks phantom power, so condenser mics are out. I haven't had much luck with mics anyway. I suppose a dynamic would work, but it doesn't seem that important to me.

    Your question regards the LMIII but I believe the pre is the same as the LMII. Only the output power has been increased.
     
  13. pallino

    pallino

    Feb 2, 2008
    The Netherlands
    Just my two cents: I used to have a LMII, which is a killer amp with electric bass, but sounded terrible with both my double bass and EUB (NS Design). Now I'm using an Acoustic Image Contra, which sounds wonderful with both DB and (especially when hooked to my 2x10 Nemesis speaker) Electric bass...
     
  14. MoEllis

    MoEllis

    Sep 11, 2008
    Los Angeles
    Same here, I have the realist pickup though. I really like the sound with my electrics and upright.. although the upright sound leaves much to be desired because my actual DB isn't the best and the MarkBass amps really bring out the true sound of the instrument. just my $.02
     
  15. old-fashioned

    old-fashioned

    Mar 25, 2005
    Ankara
    I thought of using the XLR input for acoustic bass (coming from my fishman platinum's XLR Out) and using the 1/4" main input for my electric bass. I wonder if it would work OK using the amp this way. (So, no mics at all.)

    The LMII and LMIII are all the same regarding the input features and pres they have I believe.
    Has the output power been increased? The web site doesn't say so.
     
  16. Greg Clinkingbeard

    Greg Clinkingbeard

    Apr 4, 2005
    Kansas City area
    Setup and repair/KRUTZ Strings
    The Realist/AI is a difficult relationship, always sounding too full and uncontrolled as the volume increased. I think the MarkBass is going to be much better.

    Again, my old ply with a Full Circle pickup sounds great as well. Although designing a perfectly transparent amp is impossible, it seems whatever coloration MarkBass has is one that I like.
     
  17. AMJBASS

    AMJBASS Supporting Member

    Jan 8, 2002
    Ontario, Canada
    That has been my experience as well. Other than the Mini CMD combo from Mark Bass(which sounded quite good for doubling), I couldn't really get a great sound with the Markbass amps using my DB. I think the EQ is a little more suited for electric. I really like the AI stuff for both DB and Electric. But YMMV.
     
  18. TroyK

    TroyK Moderator Staff Member

    Mar 14, 2003
    Seattle, WA
    I'm really interested in hearing about the first brave souls to try the Mark Acoustics, like the AC101. It in particular seems like it was made for us.
     
  19. Greg Clinkingbeard

    Greg Clinkingbeard

    Apr 4, 2005
    Kansas City area
    Setup and repair/KRUTZ Strings