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Knowing myself, I might regret having sold it in a few months haha. However I’m very happy with the Darkglass Alpha Omega Photon at the moment. Very different flavour for sure.

If I were to do it again I’d go with the regular Super 800 though, as I don’t need the DI (got something else for that) and the boost with a switch suits me fine.
 
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Knowing myself, I might regret having sold it in a few months haha. However I’m very happy with the Darkglass Alpha Omega Photon at the moment. Very different flavour for sure.

If I were to do it again I’d go with the regular Super 800 though, as I don’t need the DI (got something else for that) and the boost with a switch suits me fine.

Yeah I was thinking the same to be honest, it's a lot of extra real estate for something that I probably wouldn't need a footswitch for in practice. Awesome pedal though, got it nicely dialed in last night.

The Photon sounds incredible from demos, was really tempted for a while, pretty happy with the current setup though
 
I'm currently preamp shopping and have never tried any of Tim's pedals so I think it's time!

Can you guys give me a general idea on what I can expect, especially from the Transmission? I can get an idea what the Super 800 and 300 will deliver, but not sure about the Transmission.

To give you an idea, I currently have a SushiBox Underground Accelerator, SushiBox Slampegg, Darkglass VMT and Alpha Omega, Tech 21 YYZ. I like them all for different reasons but I just haven't found 'the one' yet. Not looking for a lot of dirt, just a nice big hairy punch (that sounds....odd!) with some clean still present.
 
Anyone else here with a Super 400? Kinda surprised I haven’t heard much other talk of it here! I’m still really loving it. Adds the same kinda presence and cut that I loved my 400+ for (so far only using it for recording experiments with my friends).

I'm hoping to pick a Super 400 soon. I was curious about what you felt was lacking/different than the real deal. Also, does it have power amp breakup simulation as you turn up the Master ? Will there be issues with getting clean with high output pickups?
 
I'm hoping to pick a Super 400 soon. I was curious about what you felt was lacking/different than the real deal. Also, does it have power amp breakup simulation as you turn up the Master ? Will there be issues with getting clean with high output pickups?
I haven’t had my 400+ for over a decade now, but I feel like he did get the general vibe of the preamp tone nailed pretty well as I recall it- the dirty tones are closer IMO to the original than the Mesa TT800 dirty tones that are also meant to be based on that amp.

I’ve had a number of other pres that use a Fender-type passive EQ as the 400 amps did, but there is a certain punchy aggressive vibe to the Mesa implementation used on that particular amp (especially using the EQ shift switches) that nothing else quite nails but the Super 400 does well IMO. I can’t speak to any sort of power-amp emulation, but I don’t expect all that from a preamp generally anyway (the 400+ had glorious preamp overdrive as well, so power tube distortion was never needed to make that amp growl at any volume).
It’s definitely a preamp for someone who wants tight, clear and edgy types of tones rather than the thick round Ampeg mid shape of the Super 300 IMO.

As far as dialing in cleaner tones with high output pickups, I mentioned adjusting that internal trimmer and it gave me what I needed for cleaner tones including with a few active basses- you do lose some overall volume if you cut that trimmer back though, so if you are looking for a preamp with a big output boost you may not be able to get it without also having some dirt to the tone (I don’t need much more than unity gain personally so it works for me as a clean preamp just fine).
 
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Is the super 100 a thing? Any pics? Will it work as light to medium overdrive

Per Master's social media:

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So for this i dumped the original design and went back to basics with a JFET implementation with some modifications to get it sounding right.

The brilliant/normal is the same idea as on the amp - two different inputs for the 1st gain stage that are in parallel with slightly different component values. the toggle switch lets you run normal only, brilliant only, or have them in parallel. I suppose i could have eliminated the toggle and then you would always have them in parallel and adjust their mix via the Brilliant and Normal gain controls but I wanted some extra flexibility.

My old recording PC died on me last week and i'm still trying to get back up and running to get some sound demos soon
 
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So for this i dumped the original design and went back to basics with a JFET implementation with some modifications to get it sounding right.

The brilliant/normal is the same idea as on the amp - two different inputs for the 1st gain stage that are in parallel with slightly different component values. the toggle switch lets you run normal only, brilliant only, or have them in parallel. I suppose i could have eliminated the toggle and then you would always have them in parallel and adjust their mix via the Brilliant and Normal gain controls but I wanted some extra flexibility.

My old recording PC died on me last week and i'm still trying to get back up and running to get some sound demos soon
The most natural solution to me seems either like giving each channel a gain and volume so that the tonality and mix can be adjusted individually, or having a gain for each channel, a blend between the two, and master volume. What you've gone with is fine and afford simplicity of control, but I think the ability to get different mixes of the two channels could be good.

As I say this, I should be clear that I'm looking at this as someone who hasn't heard the circuit, so I'm just totally guessing based on my past experience with the idea of mixing different gain channels.
 
The most natural solution to me seems either like giving each channel a gain and volume so that the tonality and mix can be adjusted individually, or having a gain for each channel, a blend between the two, and master volume. What you've gone with is fine and afford simplicity of control, but I think the ability to get different mixes of the two channels could be good.

As I say this, I should be clear that I'm looking at this as someone who hasn't heard the circuit, so I'm just totally guessing based on my past experience with the idea of mixing different gain channels.

But isnt having gain for each channel the same as what your saying? The ratio of the channels will be determined by each of their settings....and this is exactly how the actual amp is set up; bright gain, normal gain, EQ, presence and Master.

Anyway, this one's at the top of my list after the 400.. can never have too much Hiwatt tone!
 
But isnt having gain for each channel the same as what your saying? The ratio of the channels will be determined by each of their settings....and this is exactly how the actual amp is set up; bright gain, normal gain, EQ, presence and Master.

Anyway, this one's at the top of my list after the 400.. can never have too much Hiwatt tone!
Having the gain controls be the mix controls would make it so that you can't adjust the tonality of each channel and their mixes separately. In order to turn one channel up, you affect the gain structure as well. Having a gain control followed by a volume control for each channel would let you make sure the gain structure isn't affected by your choice in mix.

It might be that way in the actual amp, but these clones do tend to be modified somewhat for usability.
 
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Have you checked out the SF72? It does massive cleans with as much dirt as you want. Not a tubey overdrive but it sounds you’ve got that covered already.

I'm currently preamp shopping and have never tried any of Tim's pedals so I think it's time!

Can you guys give me a general idea on what I can expect, especially from the Transmission? I can get an idea what the Super 800 and 300 will deliver, but not sure about the Transmission.

To give you an idea, I currently have a SushiBox Underground Accelerator, SushiBox Slampegg, Darkglass VMT and Alpha Omega, Tech 21 YYZ. I like them all for different reasons but I just haven't found 'the one' yet. Not looking for a lot of dirt, just a nice big hairy punch (that sounds....odd!) with some clean still present.
 
I ordered a Super Two Hundred yesterday and am pre-planning my pedal board overhaul. I'm home sick, so there's not much else I can do at the moment. ;)

I already cleared up two items on my questionnaire with Tim directly – I didn't realise he was here in the forums. :D But to ask the plenum here:

Any pedal order suggestions, suggested auxiliary pedals, ideal amperage, or best practices with the Super Two Hundred?

It will replace a Broughton SV-Pre on my ampless gigging board and will be powered by a Truetone CS6. Any feedback is much welcome.
 
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