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Mesa/Boogie Official Club Thread...Part #2

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#381
I just comeback from the music store, Gave a ride to a powerhouse 210 and 112 and i can't decide which one to get, they both sound so good.

I wanna buy a cab for home some band practicing. Since i liked the 212 very much, i may go with the 112 and if the band get up to speed i'll get another 112.

I first wanted to buy the 210 but it's just so large and heavy...

i just can't decide which one to buy.
 
#382
Vic said:
You know what? I think I have a test case this Friday. I'm sitting in with a progressive country band and we're playing in a converted grain bin with tin walls and a concrete floor. I'll bring the M9 and my UL310... the "worst case scenario" and see what ends up working best. Alan, would a single coil ash/maple Sadowsky J5 be good to try and reproduce what you were using that fateful night? Or maybe the LG5? I'm also gonna' bring a mid forward bass just in case. :)
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M6 or M9 Vic?
 
#384
Vic said:
... It's been a while since I messed with the voicings. I will say tho, that of the voicings, 4 and 5 were my faves, but I did have to "tame them down" a bit with other controls after setting them.
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When I was rockin' the M6/UL410 I was using setting 4 and it did get punchy. Now with Chef's old AE410;), I use setting 3 with everything else pretty flat.

Ken,
I like the M9 because it has a compressor:hiding:. Pushing buttons, I am.

OK, I'll play nice in the sandbox:D
 
#387
Saluki said:
Alan I was just asking if Vic was going to be taking M6 or M9. I love the M9 features but the M6 allows you to foot conrol the shape filters and you can combine them. Setting 2/4 combined together sounds pretty good.
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Yeah, I think Alan got that. Thing is, I think folks doing that much with voicings are super rare, which is why I figure they took that feature off the M9 and probably never even considered it for the M3. I figure the vast majority of the players out there are using a single voicing or none at all.

So yeah, I meant the M9. The reason is, I can basically do the M6/M9 A/B very easily. The voice override on the back gives me the ability to literally swap the GEQ for the selected voicing at the tap of a footswitch, so tweaking back and forth would literally be hitting a switch and maybe twisting a knob or two real quick. I'm not gonna' have a ton of time to do different things, but I should be able to at least set up a couple tones and A/B them.
 
#388
I got my Mesa boogie Titan V12 and although I only got to play it for about 1 1/2 hours through my Genz Benz Uber 410 and my 2 EarCandy 212 BassBombs... it was definately enough time to be impressed . Unfortunately I have to spend the rest of the night packing for a 2 1/2 week vacation...Pics will have to come later . But I've gotta say this...it sure sounds alot like the Big Brother to my Walkabout...but I barely turned it past noon with minimal gain, did 'nt use overdrive or solo and the was like a panther ready to pounce...quick, beautiful harmonics and lots of punch...its the complete package...now I can have one channel all set for my fretless and the other for my fretted 4 string without fiddlin with knobs...thanks Mesa...Heaven is not in your mind!!!
Peace...DAcat :cool:
 
#389
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Got this Tecamp m212 added to my m6 carbine 212 combo; power heaven(could play easily on a large stage)! (running it on 2 ohm)
 
#390
Vic said:
Yeah, I think Alan got that. Thing is, I think folks doing that much with voicings are super rare, which is why I figure they took that feature off the M9 and probably never even considered it for the M3. I figure the vast majority of the players out there are using a single voicing or none at all.

So yeah, I meant the M9. The reason is, I can basically do the M6/M9 A/B very easily. The voice override on the back gives me the ability to literally swap the GEQ for the selected voicing at the tap of a footswitch, so tweaking back and forth would literally be hitting a switch and maybe twisting a knob or two real quick. I'm not gonna' have a ton of time to do different things, but I should be able to at least set up a couple tones and A/B them.
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Cool. I didn't know you had a M9 in the arsenal so as a M6 owner who keeps telling myself "I don't need that", I am very interested in the results. Are you playing at the corn crib?
 
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Saluki said:
Cool. I didn't know you had a M9 in the arsenal so as a M6 owner who keeps telling myself "I don't need that", I am very interested in the results. Are you playing at the corn crib?
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Actually, the Korn Krib, but yes, that's the concrete floored tin can we'll be playing in this Friday. :)
 
#392
DAcat said:
I got my Mesa boogie Titan V12 and although I only got to play it for about 1 1/2 hours through my Genz Benz Uber 410 and my 2 EarCandy 212 BassBombs... it was definately enough time to be impressed . Unfortunately I have to spend the rest of the night packing for a 2 1/2 week vacation...Pics will have to come later . But I've gottat say this...it sure sounds alot like the Big Brother to my Walkabout...but I barely turned it past noon with minimal gain, did 'nt use overdrive or solo and the was like a panther ready to pounce...quick, beautiful harmonics and lots of punch...its the complete package...now I can have one channel all set for my fretless and the other for my fretted 4 string without fiddlin with knobs...thanks Mesa...Heaven is not in your mind!!!
Peace...DAcat :cool:
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I look forward to pics and report... I keep thinking that Mesa needs the tag line: "Accept No Substitute."

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#396
Vic said:
On the boost voicings, they seem pretty strong to me, so I generally also had to drop my input gain to compensate, but I could swear I got a nice tight low mid boost effect that way... even with the less mid foward sounding cabs.
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I might be day or two behind, but I've got to say that Vic's comment is dead on.

That's exactly what I discovered with my M6 : voicing on 4 and input gain at 9 or 10 o'clock give me a superb rock tone, at least the one I've been dreaming of. Tight, low mid tone with my P-bass.

Since I discovered that setting, I'm all happy with my M6. Had great comments from fellow band members.
 
#398
Chef said:
I understood, and was hoping he'd take the M9...
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Your wish was granted last night. The room represented every anticipated horror, too. Concrete floor, circular corrugated steel room with a metal cone ceiling and NO baffling whatsoever. :)

So without even trying anything else, the first thing I did was set voice 5 and drop the bass control to about 10:00. It was amazing. Except for the natural reverb of the room, it was really quite tight and controlled. Nice big sound, but still maintained a lot of focus down low. Exactly as I'd remembered it from last time I did this. I even went for the full brutality... played away from the bridge pickup, and in fully blended mode. I did eventually favor the bridge pickup, but most of the time, it was fully blended. I also made it a point to move my right hand around a lot, and even played way up over the fingerboard during a ballad.

The bass was my Sadowsky ash/maple/HC JJ5, so I know I'm getting some focus from that, but even that only goes so far.

Also, again, the rig was the Mesa M9 and a Series 1 UL310. For those not familiar, the UL310 is the second most "scooped sounding" cab Epifani makes, next to the UL210... at least IMHO... so I was not getting any extra help there either.

As a side note, I never got around to switching to the GEQ and trying it. Sorry Alan, but maybe at least some good news is, I never needed it.

Here's the best part, and I SWEAR this really happened, and I SWEAR I did NOTHING to solicit it... some random guy actually approached me and told me how clean and clear the bass was, and even specifically said "not muddy at all". I don't know what "qualifications" he had, but really, it doesn't matter. If he was highly qualified (sound guy, musician) he'd know enough to be accurate. If he was just some random guy that loves to catch bands at bars, for it to have stuck out enough to be that significant to him, still says a lot. Win/win.

So the bottom line is, I'm gonna' stand my ground and say, with the usual IMHO qualifier, the low end on this amp IS totally controllable, and as I've said before, the EQ design on this bad boy is deceptively powerful and flexible despite the few number of controls. I maintain it's just a matter of truly understanding how it works, thoughtful exploration/experimentation, and not being afraid to use certain controls even if they have a strong characteristic.
 
#399
read and noted; thx!

I've been having fun with the M9 futzing with the GEQ to get it to match the various voicing control settings. Educational.

I used the M3 and two PH112's for a big outdoor job today, and that rig ain't no slouch at all.
It's a just a natural with my '72 P bass with the M3 set dead flat plus just a bit of bass added;
and with the AC LG5 I either cut a little mids for a bit "more modern thing," or boosted mids just a bit for a more forward JJ sound. Didn't take much.

--note: we're not terribly loud and used a 2-Stick/2 bass bin Bose sound system.
 
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