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MESA/BOOGIE TT-800 Questions

#222
Spacecoastbass said:
Same here in Florida for my taste and ear. 115 and the TT has it all in a small package. If I add another there's no question what brand but I'm still on the fence between another 115 or the 210. The versatility of having another "flavor" of Mesa cab appeals to my logic (and past experience w/10s) but the 115 does everything I need as of now. I would start with the 115 and build from there. There are quite a few folks that pair the 12 with the 115. It's all about what inspires you, the music and your ear. You definitely have the mindset for care and quality. I thought it would hurt since I'm a late bloomer on bass. Being a drummer for over 40 yr. and an audio geek since I was a kid (Thanks Dad!), I feel no pain. I'm having so much fun and don't regret anything. My wife is even studying bass because of the enthusiasm and some of that inspiration comes from great sound.
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I also really like the idea of a "Mesa fridge" - 2 of their 410's under a TT.
 
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Count Bassie said:
Is there a short list of favored cabs to use with the TT-800? I'll likely be spending since time on the used market, although having gone through the small morass with the cab I just got used, I might instead look for new. It'll hurt, but if I do it right it'll only hurt once. 🙂
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I have a lot of cabs and use them all when trying out the new Mesa amps designs. I really like the SW 115, the AudioKinesis H112T, the Berg CNJ212, and the last generation GK Neo112 II cabs with the TT. While the sound is a bit different in character from the SW115, the GK Neo 112 is probably the one of most balanced sounding in the GK line. It shares that trait with the SW115 which is IMO/IME the most neutral or best balanced/least voiced cab in the SW line.

Duke's cabs always sound great to me and I find the Berg CN cabs to be nicely neutral as well. If you're going Mesa SW, the 115 (or 215) should at; least be on your list to give a listen to. I use the SW 115/112 combination and it is an excellent set-up with the TT-800 s well.
 
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Al Kraft said:
I have a lot of cabs and use them all when trying out the new Mesa amps designs. I really like the SW 115, the AudioKinesis H112T, the Berg CNJ212, and the last generation GK Neo112 II cabs with the TT. While the sound is a bit different in character from the SW115, the GK Neo 112 is probably the one of most balanced sounding in the GK line. It shares that trait with the SW115 which is IMO/IME the most neutral or best balanced/least voiced cab in the SW line.

Duke's cabs always sound great to me and I find the Berg CN cabs to be nicely neutral as well. If you're going Mesa SW, the 115 (or 215) should at; least be on your list to give a listen to. I use the SW 115/112 combination and it is an excellent set-up with the TT-800 s well.
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Thanks for that rundown. Interesting about the GK, I haven't been a fan of their cabs so much. Hm.
I scored, for pretty cheap, an old model Schroeder 1210. It's a little on the harsh side, barky and pretty punchy. In my band mix at rehearsal it seems to do really well. It's a little dark, but pushes its way right forward in the mix, and there are no freqs from my bass that don't stand up- nothing seems to disappear, which is different!
I don't know if that has anything to do with the cab, but in the ensemble it's very different from solo. I suppose you'd expect that, but the reality of how it sounds is interesting, I haven't had an amp that does as well as this one. It's like listening to someone else!
The Schroeder has been giving me some trouble however, but I've been talking with Jorg and some other people (I've been on TB about it a lot!). I'm bringing the speakers to a local guy I go to in the neighborhood. I'm also ordering a new crossover from Schroeder, apparently at some point the original got replaced...
If I can fix er up, I'll hang onto it, but I'm still looking for something with a different voice.
 
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Al Kraft said:
I have a lot of cabs and use them all when trying out the new Mesa amps designs. I really like the SW 115, the AudioKinesis H112T, the Berg CNJ212, and the last generation GK Neo112 II cabs with the TT. While the sound is a bit different in character from the SW115, the GK Neo 112 is probably the one of most balanced sounding in the GK line. It shares that trait with the SW115 which is IMO/IME the most neutral or best balanced/least voiced cab in the SW line.

Duke's cabs always sound great to me and I find the Berg CN cabs to be nicely neutral as well. If you're going Mesa SW, the 115 (or 215) should at; least be on your list to give a listen to. I use the SW 115/112 combination and it is an excellent set-up with the TT-800 s well.
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Agree on the GK NEO112 with the TT800 and the WD800, although I have to admit that I prefer two NEO112's rather than one alone. I wasn't a big fan of the single cab, but two NEO112's sound great and probably get most of the playing time of all my cabs.
 
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Count Bassie said:
I haven't had an amp that does as well as this one. It's like listening to someone else!
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That is one of the best descriptions of the TT I've ever heard and I wish I had come up with it...I know exactly what you mean!! :thumbsup:
Wicked G said:
Agree on the GK NEO112 with the TT800 and the WD800, although I have to admit that I prefer two NEO112's rather than one alone. I wasn't a big fan of the single cab, but two NEO112's sound great and probably get most of the playing time of all my cabs.
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You and I seem to hear things pretty much the same way Gil. I also greatly prefer two GK Neo 112 cabs to just one. In fairness to GK though, I almost always like two 112 cabs better than just one.

The SW 115 is very satisfying to my ear with a single cab and I can actually find a great sound with just one of Duke's 12" driver cabs.
 
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#229
Count Bassie said:
What are your carbs, and what do you look for in a sound?
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Carbs? I'm thinking you meant cabs.

Two GK NEO 112's
Two Orange OBC112's
Two TC Electronic RS210's
Two TC Electronic K212's
Genz Benz UBER QUAD
Genz Benz UBER 115t

I guess you can say I look for a more growly somewhat overdriven sound yet must cut through. Think about Geezer Butler on Black Sabbath 13 or Jason Newsted on Metallica's Black album. So my amp preferences tend to lean more towards Mesa WD800, Laney Digbeth 500 and Orange Terror Bass to name a few. The Mesa, Laney and Streamliner get a lot of play time through the GK's.
 
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Seriously, @Wicked G thanks for that. I'm making some effort to tailor my gear more than I've done in the past. I'm not trying to be as stylistically nimble/able to play everything spot-on, but to be more focused on the sound and approach that actually gets me to my happy place. Even in the cover band it's more about interpretation than playing it "right".
The fretless is coming more into play also, and I'm finding my EQ and speaker choice are getting tweaked. That lack of frets changes things dynamically: it becomes more complex. Also you can change the sound a lot with your physical approach, but the mere absence of metal frets against a string means it's EQ time.
So I'm looking for a fretless-friendly speaker. For me that translates to sweet- but not dominating- mids, and punchy low end- but not boomy.
This all gets a little like reading a wine review, lol...
 
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Count Bassie said:
Seriously, @Wicked G thanks for that. I'm making some effort to tailor my gear more than I've done in the past. I'm not trying to be as stylistically nimble/able to play everything spot-on, but to be more focused on the sound and approach that actually gets me to my happy place. Even in the cover band it's more about interpretation than playing it "right".
The fretless is coming more into play also, and I'm finding my EQ and speaker choice are getting tweaked. That lack of frets changes things dynamically: it becomes more complex. Also you can change the sound a lot with your physical approach, but the mere absence of metal frets against a string means it's EQ time.
So I'm looking for a fretless-friendly speaker. For me that translates to sweet- but not dominating- mids, and punchy low end- but not boomy.
This all gets a little like reading a wine review, lol...
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Lol, or a wine menu.
Wine Menu.JPG
 
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#235
Dom Amato said:
Im gonna make a hartke fridge with 2 HD410s haha
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I've got an old Hartke Kickback 12, and when the speaker started to go I replaced it with a Hartke neo 12. It's a 4 ohm and not the original 6 ohm so it draws a little more from the amp- the guy at Hartke said that was ok though. Sounds really good.
I'm considering, when I can, building a vertical 2x12 cab with a space for the TT, and loading it with as pair of the Hartke neos. That would be the small club rig.
That'd be enough for my gig life right there. Then one bigger cab for the doom/prog band.
 
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