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Mesa Boogie Walkabout Mega-thread Part 10

Yeah I was definitely thinking in comparative terms with the 700RBII, because those amps (as well as the 800RB and 400RB) are voiced in a more mid-forward way that naturally cuts through despite fairly modest wattage ratings. The Walkabout can get there too with EQ, but is naturally voiced in a more fat way that tends to suck up it's wattage.
I agree completely. Dial back the low EQ on the WA and consider a HPF and I think you may be pleasantly surprised. The WA also has a lot of flexibility in EQ to bring out a bit more of the mids in your voicing. While it won't get to a GK kind of tone to my ears, the WA can seem louder than its rating might lead you to expect with some creative voicing. Those GK Neo cabs are also quite good at using what feed them very efficiently IME. In fact I love the way the GK Neo 112's sound with my Carbine M3 head running way below its maximum output.
 
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When I was playing small bars with a rock band that was much too loud, a Walkabout and 2X112 cabs were adequate, but left no clean head room. 3 X112 was perfection, but at the time I was not willing to haul that much cab. Now I have 2 SW 115s and I wish I was still playin' out, because they're the perfect match for the WA. Instead I have 1 cab sitting at 2 locations for convenience.......just waiting for an occasion to reunite 'em.
 
What is the 15” cab you have? A Walkabout through a 15” is a wonderful combo! It’s tough because on one side I want to recommend the amp because they sound phenomenal, but on the other end of it the power is definitely it’s biggest shortfall (as you can read if you go back through the Mega-threads). I found in my main band of the last several years that I had to push it to its limits to keep up (even through the 610 cab!) but that was an exceptionally LOUD band, and pretty uncommon in this day and age for the small bar scene. For most reasonable volume gigs the 15” combo was just right and didn’t require pushing the amp to its limits (I find there is a sweet spot with the Walkabout where it sounds best pushed a bit on the power side much like a tube head, but when you pass that sweet spot it definitely does not respond as sweetly as a tube head!).

Given that you won’t really have an opportunity to test it for some time in a gig it may not be the best investment right now unless you happen to have that extra money burning a hole in your pocket!

I have a hard time imagining a bassist not liking a Walkabout unless they are only about super linear/bright/hi-fi tones. I will probably always have a more powerful amp option around to use, but plan to keep a Walkabout indefinitely because it sounds so sweet.
Yeah, love my WA 15 + 15 extension. Plenty loud for y'all
 
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I used to run a Walkabout with a fairly efficient, mid-loaded (and mid-forward) 2x12 cab -- 100 dB/W/m just for the woofers -- maybe a little more, overall, with that forward mid. Plenty for many situations (I can see a Walkabout into even a moderately efficient, 8 Ohm 1x12 comfortably covering several smaller settings) but, playing loud music with loud people in a loud club, I was deep into full-on overdrive with that combo. An fDeck HPF3 in the effects loop helped substantially, but it was not enough.

If I were to try to cover the same sort of thing with a Walkabout today, I would want two fairly efficient 15s or something comparable. Going bigger, two good 2x12s (or, again, something equivalent) would make a massive difference vs. one, and would sound huge. An HPF gives you some more room, yet, and can be used with whatever cabs you like.

Granted, EQ choices will make a difference and some 15s aren't any more efficient than 12s -- I'm speaking generally, with the point being that, if you're trying to play loud and stay clean-ish and dynamic, the WA really benefits from an extra few dB of efficiency. In terms of cab voicing, I found good mids (cab doesn't have to sound ganky, but a big scoop or hole in the mids doesn't help) and a tight-ish low-end response to be the Walkabout's friends, but I suppose that depends on what you're going for.
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Addendum: I'm never sure when to use the term efficiency vs. sensitivity. I had the notion that, in speaker-jargon, they might not mean exactly the same thing. A quick search turned up this, which I found informative (and even mildly entertaining): Speaker Efficiency vs Sensitivity | Types of Speakers


Addendum 2: Though not what I usually go for, the WA's overdrive when pushed near its volume limits (not just dialing up the gain) is some of my favorite that I've encountered -- harmonically rich, smooth, creamy (I feel like I'm talking about something you'd get for $8 in a fancy coffeshop) is how I recall it.
 
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Sensitivity and efficiency become closer as the frequency decreases and the pattern becomes more omnidirectional.

Sensitivity changes with pattern, efficiency is a constant. Decreasing the pattern increases the sensitivity.
 
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Sensitivity and efficiency become closer as the frequency decreases and the pattern becomes more omnidirectional.

Sensitivity changes with pattern, efficiency is a constant. Decreasing the pattern increases the sensitivity.
This makes sense. Taken together with this passage from the bit of reading I linked...

Sensitivity is the level of sound pressure directly in front of the speaker (on axis), at a given amount of power, at a given distance (Example: 100 dB @ 1 watt @ 1 meter). Most speaker specifications pertain to sensitivity.

Efficiency is the percentage of acoustic energy radiated in all directions from a speaker, compared to the input of a given amount of power (3% to 4% efficiency is typical for a woofer). Given two speakers with identical sensitivity and the input of an identical amount of power, the speaker with wider dispersion is more efficient.”
...I feel like I've actually got a decent handle on the concepts now.

Both sensitivity and efficiency should vary with frequency, if I understand correctly. Sensitivity, above, is specified directly on-axis, which makes sense for the measurements commonly given. Can you specify sensitivity at a specific point, off-axis?

Interesting read...thanks for posting it!
Sure! I think it was the first thing when I searched "sensitivity vs. efficiency speakers." Found it a pretty easy read, so thought I'd share.
 
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Sensitivity will vary with position, since efficiency is position independent, it will not vary.

Both sensitivity and efficiency also vary with frequency.
Agedhorse,

Do you happen to know if the difference in gain sensitivity between active and passive mode on the Walkabout is the same 10 db noted in the WD 800 manual? I can not find this documented in the Walkabout manual or anywhere else.
 
Agedhorse,

Do you happen to know if the difference in gain sensitivity between active and passive mode on the Walkabout is the same 10 db noted in the WD 800 manual? I can not find this documented in the Walkabout manual or anywhere else.
I don't know and don't have this information at hand.

With the Walkabout, the input impedance drops significantly in the active mode, the input impedance remains at about 1M in active mode on the WD.
 
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Sensitivity will vary with position, since efficiency is position independent, it will not vary.

Both sensitivity and efficiency also vary with frequency.
Thanks, Andy. This also makes sense.

I was wondering if the term "sensitivity" was ever used in referring to off-axis response, specifically -- would an engineer ever say, "Sensitivity at 1 KHz drops significantly, 15 degrees off-axis in the horizontal plane," or would they just refer to the "response off-axis"? (Sorry to take this off into the weeds, here.)
 
My Walkabout (black faceplate) makes a soft popping noise when in use. It's the same type of pop as when you turn the amp on and you hear a pop after several seconds, but then much more subtle. But it's still audible and it repeats every +/- 5 seconds. It's also audible when there's no bass plugged in and with gain and master at zero.

Any ideas what's going on?
 
My Walkabout (black faceplate) makes a soft popping noise when in use. It's the same type of pop as when you turn the amp on and you hear a pop after several seconds, but then much more subtle. But it's still audible and it repeats every +/- 5 seconds. It's also audible when there's no bass plugged in and with gain and master at zero.

Any ideas what's going on?
If you have any extra 12ax7 tubes you can swap in there I'd try that. I've had a few noise issues in Walkabouts over the years that ended up going away by swapping one of the tubes.
 
By any chance do you have a cell phone sitting on the amp or close by? It's possible that it's a bad tube, but I would also consider external sources of noise as well.

Do not spray anything on the pots or jacks (a common yet poor suggestion) as that's not going to be the cause, nor is a "bad cap" (another common yet poor suggestion)likely to be the cause either.
 
If you have any extra 12ax7 tubes you can swap in there I'd try that. I've had a few noise issues in Walkabouts over the years that ended up going away by swapping one of the tubes.

Thanks. I’ll give that a try.

By any chance do you have a cell phone sitting on the amp or close by? It's possible that it's a bad tube, but I would also consider external sources of noise as well.

Do not spray anything on the pots or jacks (a common yet poor suggestion) as that's not going to be the cause, nor is a "bad cap" (another common yet poor suggestion)likely to be the cause either.

No cell phone on the amp, but probably in the same room. I’ll try the amp in a different place in the house.
 
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