Mesa Boogie Walkabout Part 6

[MarkusBass]

The speakon conversion is what I did back when I had my WA cab, and it worked out great—as long as you intend to use it as an extension.

Yep...Mine look just like that.

 

[MarkusBass]

cool, so how did you do that mod ? Drill an appropriate sized hole in the back of the cab, push the barrel of the speakon jack into the hole, screw the speaker terminal wires to the jack, then run the screws through. Do I see some sort of gasket/flashing material in the pic ?

thanks

When I did it...I cut the end off the existing plug, and pushed it through the hole. Then used the hole as a guide, and drilled it out to fit the new female plug plate. Soldered it up and bolted in down. I took the speaker out to clean out the cab...sawdust, etc. No flashing needed if you drill the hole to the right size.

 

[Willicious]

cool, so how did you do that mod ? Drill an appropriate sized hole in the back of the cab, push the barrel of the speakon jack into the hole, screw the speaker terminal wires to the jack, then run the screws through. Do I see some sort of gasket/flashing material in the pic ?

Actually, that's pretty much what I did.

Having now performed this little maneuver once, I would recommend just using a paddle bit to create the bore, but choosing a virgin spot to locate the hole. (I chose to make things harder than they needed to be by enlarging the existing 1/4" hole)

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[pfschim]

Or I use these without any problems. At $0.90 each they're pretty usefull to have around.

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yeah, I know these are no big deal to find and use, I have a few lying around here from when I have used the WA cab with some other heads (like the RH450 I use for a back-up amp) but it just adds more small stuff to keep track of in the old gig bag.

If I go this route, I would probably just do what Willicious (and perhaps others) have done and put a speakon jack on the extension cab. Just seems simpler to me in the long run.

 

[Willicious]

If I go this route, I would probably just do what Willicious (and perhaps others) have done and put a speakon jack on the extension cab. Just seems simpler to me in the long run.

If you do decide to go this route, you may want to consider mounting the Speakon lower (closer toward bottom of cab) than I did. This would allow someone down the road to use the cab with a WA head.

 

[Chef]

You might consider a dual use speakon that takes both 1/4" and speakon connectors.

 

[MuthaFunk]

so I take it from the replies so far that no one in the WA Mega thread(s) is using an actual Scout extension cab with their WA ? It seems as if some are using the more readily available "airhead" WA cabs with the amp removed.

From the replies I understand it would be a pretty easy matter to use the airhead WA cab, but I'm still torn on the question of using a Scout extension or the airhead WA cab.

I use a Radiator 12 extension cab. The Combo cab is called the Scout. They do sound slightly different but most certainly of the same breed. I've been really impressed with the volume I can get with the Radiator 12 extension attached. Both of my cabs are 4 ohm. I dial back the 40-50 HZ region with the Walkabouts parameteic EQ which lightens the load on both speakers. I have no problems playing in a rock cover band without PA support and a loud drummer. I might consider using a larger cab combo for outdoor gigs if PA support can not be had.

I recently tried an 8 ohm Scout cab and found it sounded much darker in the mids to my 4 ohm. The 8 ohm unit I bought here on TB has what I believe to be an Deltalite 2510 Version 1. At leas it looks different than the current Deltalite II. It lacked much of the magical mid definition that my 4 ohm cabs have.

 

[bigbajo60]

Another Walkabout Scout + Radiator Extension 4 Ohm pairing over here.

Lots of my fellow local musos have commented that this is the best sounding rig I've ever had... and they've seen me go through some very nice rigs, so...

 

[sunbeast]

I recently tried an 8 ohm Scout cab and found it sounded much darker in the mids to my 4 ohm. The 8 ohm unit I bought here on TB has what I believe to be an Deltalite 2510 Version 1. At leas it looks different than the current Deltalite II. It lacked much of the magical mid definition that my 4 ohm cabs have.

How do they differ in appearance? The one in my Scout has a dustcap that you can see through, whereas others I've seen just have a normal paper dustcap...

 

[MuthaFunk]

How do they differ in appearance? The one in my Scout has a dustcap that you can see through, whereas others I've seen just have a normal paper dustcap...

That's the most obvious difference but also the magnet assembly is different. The newer style Deltalite II's have a paper dustcap with a (felt?) covered center hole to allow cooling air in to the coil.

The newer Mesa Scout / Radiator cabs appear to have a custom 4 ohm version of the Eminence Deltalite II 2512. Eminence doesn't offer a 4 ohm version of the Deltalite II 2512 to the public. The see through dust cap ones are a Deltalite version I. There seems to be very little info on them available on the net. It's like Eminence pulled all data after they released the Deltalite II to avoid customers / designers mixing the specs up with the old version.

I can honestly say the newer 4 ohm speaker that is currently loaded in the Scout and Radiator cabs is much more defined in the mids and equally fat in the low range when compared to the old style 8 ohm woofer. At least to my ears. I sold the 8 ohm unit right away.

 

[Jazz4]

Well after reading a whole bunch of positve remarks/threads on T.B. and test driving the Scout at a local music store. I scored a used Combo w/ext cabinet and the walkabout head cabinet. Now I can hardly wait to fire it up when it arrives. Better than Christmas in my books.

 

[Crabby]

We need photos of your new rig.

 

[RickenBoogie]

YES, PICS!! (wipes anticapatory drool from chin)

 

[pfschim]

Another Walkabout Scout + Radiator Extension 4 Ohm pairing over here.

Lots of my fellow local musos have commented that this is the best sounding rig I've ever had... and they've seen me go through some very nice rigs, so...

very cool looking, and I'm sure, great sounding rig.
Just curious why you run it side by side instead of one on top of the other ? I would think you would get better performance (less beaming ?) with a vertical orientation. The elevation of the combo would also put it closer to your ears too.

in any event, thanks for sharing that, nice!

 

[bigbajo60]

very cool looking, and I'm sure, great sounding rig.
Just curious why you run it side by side instead of one on top of the other ? I would think you would get better performance (less beaming ?) with a vertical orientation. The elevation of the combo would also put it closer to your ears too.

in any event, thanks for sharing that, nice!

I've run it both ways, and will vary it up depending on the situation/venue. When we're playing smaller places (like the one in the pic) where only vocals will be in the PA... this side by side setup gives me a good bit more low end out in the room.

 

[MuthaFunk]

I've run it both ways, and will vary it up depending on the situation/venue. When we're playing smaller places (like the one in the pic) where only vocals will be in the PA... this side by side setup gives me a good bit more low end out in the room.

I've experienced the same thing with my Radiator 12 extension cab. I still find I typically run them stacked because it gives me a little more mid projection. The Scout and Radiator extension cabs never really need more bottom end... Unless your doing a dub thing.

 

[ishouldbeking]

I use my WA through the 4 ohm Scout combo and stack it on top of the matching 8 ohm extension cab. Works pretty darn awesome. That said I prefer the tone slightly of my sealed 610 with the Walkabout, but that's because it delivers the SVT thunder like no other. For smaller gigs I'm all about the Scout stack, or just the single combo for really little gigs.

 

[ishouldbeking]

Any word whether Mesa will be announcing anything new or fun for bass at this year's NAMM? I'll be there tomorrow, but I havent' heard any mentions of Mesa yet.

 

[Crabby]

I am itching t know if any new bass gear will be introduced! Not that I 'need" anything!

 

[DrGroovenstein]

so I take it from the replies so far that no one in the WA Mega thread(s) is using an actual Scout extension cab with their WA ? It seems as if some are using the more readily available "airhead" WA cabs with the amp removed.

From the replies I understand it would be a pretty easy matter to use the airhead WA cab, but I'm still torn on the question of using a Scout extension or the airhead WA cab.

I own an 8 ohm scout extension cab. Picked it up not too long ago from the classifieds. I haven't had a chance to play with it out yet. From home tests I can say that it certainly has plenty of lows. I find myself cutting the bass in the parametric to get it under control. Overall pretty happy with it, I just need to get it out on a gig.