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Mesa D-800+ vs TC Electronics RB750?

Hey, gang! I've tried to be a 'good member' and search the threads as much as possible, and not really finding what I'm looking for. So, am posting a new thread, as I'm kind of antsy about getting a new bass head and would welcome your thoughts, please.
I've been using a TC Elec. RB450, which is decent, but lacks the headroom I crave. I've been looking at the Mesa Subway D-800+ and also the TC RB750. Both have all the features I "need", but I LIKE the built-in tuner and 3-slot storage of the RB750 (I use a fretted, fretless, and upright elec. on the same gig here and there). The slight extra power of the Mesa is appealing, and I've heard the TC line isn't really as powerful as it's rated. Currently, I can get the Mesa for about 80 bucks cheaper (both new but open-box) than the TC. Thoughts, anyone? Thanks in advance!
 
I own both an RH450 and RH750 and can tell you that the 750 is louder, cleaner and more airy than the 450 although it isn't a night and day difference.

I love the RH750 and it is one of my favorite amps along with the EBS Reidmar 750 and Genzler Magellan 800, however since you already have 450, you could get the Mesa and have 2 different flavors of awesome.

But if you really like the RH450, the RH750 is even better. IMHO and IME.

Edit: Should also add that you could find the RH750 for under $700 on EBay new with warranty if cost matters.
 
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Wow! I knew I could count on you guys to offer solid advice! I'm leaning very heavily towards the Mesa, but am now seeing mention of a "half the price" amp called the Bugera Veyron Mosfet BV1001M, which is supposed to have 2000 watts (I am skeptical). I saw another guy's post on here exclaiming its virtues, but little else. At less than 400 bucks new, it's tempting, I have to admit.
 
Wow! I knew I could count on you guys to offer solid advice! I'm leaning very heavily towards the Mesa, but am now seeing mention of a "half the price" amp called the Bugera Veyron Mosfet BV1001M, which is supposed to have 2000 watts (I am skeptical). I saw another guy's post on here exclaiming its virtues, but little else. At less than 400 bucks new, it's tempting, I have to admit.
If you are comparing this amp to any of the other amps you might be considering, be sure you are comparing by using like metrics for things like power.

For example, the Subway power is rated using RMS metrics, 800 watts (RMS) yet if we were to choose to, it could also carry a ~1600 watt (peak) rating and a ~2000 watt (peak-burst) rating. All of these describe exactly the same amp but use different metrics.
 
Wow! I knew I could count on you guys to offer solid advice! I'm leaning very heavily towards the Mesa, but am now seeing mention of a "half the price" amp called the Bugera Veyron Mosfet BV1001M, which is supposed to have 2000 watts (I am skeptical). I saw another guy's post on here exclaiming its virtues, but little else. At less than 400 bucks new, it's tempting, I have to admit.
I owned a Mosfet Veyron for exactly 44 days and fought with it on gigs the entire time. Needless to say I sent it back.

You might like it, but I would not recommend it ever. It has way less bass than your other 2 options and sounds very thin. Stick to your original choices is my recommendation.
 
Wow! I knew I could count on you guys to offer solid advice! I'm leaning very heavily towards the Mesa, but am now seeing mention of a "half the price" amp called the Bugera Veyron Mosfet BV1001M, which is supposed to have 2000 watts (I am skeptical). I saw another guy's post on here exclaiming its virtues, but little else. At less than 400 bucks new, it's tempting, I have to admit.

Couldn't give me a Behringer/Bugera amp, and the power ratings are completely made up.
 
Hey, gang! I've tried to be a 'good member' and search the threads as much as possible, and not really finding what I'm looking for. So, am posting a new thread, as I'm kind of antsy about getting a new bass head and would welcome your thoughts, please.
I've been using a TC Elec. RB450, which is decent, but lacks the headroom I crave. I've been looking at the Mesa Subway D-800+ and also the TC RB750. Both have all the features I "need", but I LIKE the built-in tuner and 3-slot storage of the RB750 (I use a fretted, fretless, and upright elec. on the same gig here and there). The slight extra power of the Mesa is appealing, and I've heard the TC line isn't really as powerful as it's rated. Currently, I can get the Mesa for about 80 bucks cheaper (both new but open-box) than the TC. Thoughts, anyone? Thanks in advance!

Mesa. No contest. 3 slot storage?
 
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Mesa. Seriously. My Subway 800+ is my favorite amp of all time, and I’ve owned quite a few different amps, including several Ampegs, GK (my 800RB will never leave, but not my go to), Fender, AND my Mesa 400 (also won’t leave, but mostly for sentimental value). Nothing against TC, an I’ve never owned one, but Mesa just has “it”, in my opinion, when it comes to bass guitar amplification
 
I've been playing Bass for a very long time and in that time have used many amps. Back in the 80's I owned my first Mesa amp (Bass 400+). That amp changed the my perception on amps for good. As has been mentioned above, they are a cut above any other company out there when it comes to the care they put into their products; starting with design all the way through customer service. You simply cannot do better than them in this industry. With that said, Mesa consistently puts out quality products that in many ways outpaces their competition...consistently. Think back, have you ever heard of them producing anything that is considered a "dog" by any standard?

I've been using a Subway D-800 since they were announced a few years back. It is an outstanding amp that I have absolute confidence in for any application. It's the last part of my rig that I worry about. Here's an interesting fact, I run the D-800 to push a ~30 year old Mesa 4x10 and it just simply rocks! that's right, the cabinet is ~30 years old, that right there should speak volumes to you. In fact, I also play on the worship team at my church and use a D-800 Preamp DI.

Now with that said, let me address tone and ease of use. The interface to the D-800 is absolutely idot proof meaning I can get a workable sound from it without much effort at all. In fact, I've not found a setting that makes me sit back and say "that sounds awful". The amp just gets out of your way and delivers every time! Forget about all the talk about this "nice to have" and that.

Yeah, you are going to have to pay some cash to get that kind of reliability and commitment to quality. Let's say you bought an amp that is half the price, ask yourself will that really satisfy you? Is the price point the only deciding factor? If the answer to the latter question is "yes" then go ahead and buy the cheaper unit. I can almost guarantee you'll be back looking for something else in the short-term. I played that game for years. the old statement "you get what you pay for" could never be more true in this case IMHO.

If this is not enough, ask yourself this; why do people continue to pay premium dollars for Mesa equipment? How could they have survived this long in a market where I can get stuff made overseas, with less quality, and charge an inflated price for it? I think the answer is simple; Mesa consistently delivers quality and players have come to realize that and trust the brand to deliver every time.

Here's a true story from back when I owned the Bass 400+. Shortly after buying the amp, I had a question about it and the dealer suggested I call Mesa support. So, I did and spoke to a CSR who took the model and serial number and asked if I could hang on a minute. Very quickly someone took me off hold and introduced themselves as the person who worked on my specific amp and spoke with me for quite a while about it, enthusiastically answering any questions that came up. In all my years dealing with companies, I've NEVER had that kind of customer service. That experience made me a life long customer. And that policy for customer care has not changed to this day!

I know, I sound like a huge "fanboy". The truth is, winning my loyalty as a consumer is not easy, I've got very high standards especially where music gear is concerned. I don't like to part with hard earned cash any more than the next guy. So, I like to make sure what I spend my money on is going to give me a return on my investment. If they were awful, I would be singing a completely different tune. In short, get the Mesa, you won't be sorry.
 
I've been playing Bass for a very long time and in that time have used many amps. Back in the 80's I owned my first Mesa amp (Bass 400+). That amp changed the my perception on amps for good. As has been mentioned above, they are a cut above any other company out there when it comes to the care they put into their products; starting with design all the way through customer service. You simply cannot do better than them in this industry. With that said, Mesa consistently puts out quality products that in many ways outpaces their competition...consistently. Think back, have you ever heard of them producing anything that is considered a "dog" by any standard?

I've been using a Subway D-800 since they were announced a few years back. It is an outstanding amp that I have absolute confidence in for any application. It's the last part of my rig that I worry about. Here's an interesting fact, I run the D-800 to push a ~30 year old Mesa 4x10 and it just simply rocks! that's right, the cabinet is ~30 years old, that right there should speak volumes to you. In fact, I also play on the worship team at my church and use a D-800 Preamp DI.

Now with that said, let me address tone and ease of use. The interface to the D-800 is absolutely idot proof meaning I can get a workable sound from it without much effort at all. In fact, I've not found a setting that makes me sit back and say "that sounds awful". The amp just gets out of your way and delivers every time! Forget about all the talk about this "nice to have" and that.

Yeah, you are going to have to pay some cash to get that kind of reliability and commitment to quality. Let's say you bought an amp that is half the price, ask yourself will that really satisfy you? Is the price point the only deciding factor? If the answer to the latter question is "yes" then go ahead and buy the cheaper unit. I can almost guarantee you'll be back looking for something else in the short-term. I played that game for years. the old statement "you get what you pay for" could never be more true in this case IMHO.

If this is not enough, ask yourself this; why do people continue to pay premium dollars for Mesa equipment? How could they have survived this long in a market where I can get stuff made overseas, with less quality, and charge an inflated price for it? I think the answer is simple; Mesa consistently delivers quality and players have come to realize that and trust the brand to deliver every time.

Here's a true story from back when I owned the Bass 400+. Shortly after buying the amp, I had a question about it and the dealer suggested I call Mesa support. So, I did and spoke to a CSR who took the model and serial number and asked if I could hang on a minute. Very quickly someone took me off hold and introduced themselves as the person who worked on my specific amp and spoke with me for quite a while about it, enthusiastically answering any questions that came up. In all my years dealing with companies, I've NEVER had that kind of customer service. That experience made me a life long customer. And that policy for customer care has not changed to this day!

I know, I sound like a huge "fanboy". The truth is, winning my loyalty as a consumer is not easy, I've got very high standards especially where music gear is concerned. I don't like to part with hard earned cash any more than the next guy. So, I like to make sure what I spend my money on is going to give me a return on my investment. If they were awful, I would be singing a completely different tune. In short, get the Mesa, you won't be sorry.
IMO quality is priceless.
 
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