Mesa Subway D-350!

[kesslari]

I'm really impressed with how Mesa and @agedhorse take input and feedback from this forum and real world players and build it into their products.
Well done!

 

[Mark Sacchetti]

Why no hpf on the new amp?

 

[Sid the Kid]

I’m going to wager a guess that there is an HPF inside, set at 30hz.

 

[12bass]

I’m going to wager a guess that there is an HPF inside, set at 30hz.

Gonna raise that bet to 35Hz.

 

[JohnnyBottom]

Seems like the page for the d-350 at zzounds is gone.

So does that mean we passed the acid test and go to production? or did Mesa say...w t f are you doing? to zzsounds

 

[Al Kraft]

Why no hpf on the new amp?

There is a fixed (not variable) HPF incorporated in the internal circuitry much like you find on the D-800. It works perfectly for getting a very big, full bass output without headroom robbing or speaker endangering frequencies you don't need/can't use.

 

[Mark Sacchetti]

Release date?

 

[agedhorse]

Release date?

Patience, grasshopper.

 

[marchone]

Beta phase.

 

[PeaveyPlayer]

My sad phase

 

[ardgedee]

Currently out of phase, will eventually be in phase.

 

[Matt Power]

Why no hpf on the new amp?

Agreed. It doesn't take up much enclosure space. Very useful

There is a fixed (not variable) HPF incorporated in the internal circuitry much like you find on on D-800. It works perfectly for getting a very big, full bass output without headroom robbing or speaker endangering frequencies you don't need/can't use.

That works if you ONLY play electric bass. People who double (working players) truly do need this feature. Otherwise, any decent amp with 2 mid frequencies can get the job done on doublebass if you put something like an F Deck in front.....but who wants to do that unless they HAVE to? No one. This will do great with the rock/bar crowd, but not with the db or doubling guys, IMO.

Once again, I truly am looking for a new amp like the EA Doubler....this might not be MY new amp, but I am sure that it will be their new go-to amp for a LOT of primarily EB players.

I apologize if I am not on this Party Train yet. Darkhorse is listening, so this is my 2 cents, not adjusted to inflation.

 

[PeaveyPlayer]

So what are the tonal profiles

Of all the sub way amps summed up?

 

[12bass]

So what are the tonal profiles

Of all the sub way amps summed up?

Vanilla, Spicy Vanilla, Dark Chocolate, and Hot Fudge.

 

[mikeswals]

Fedex moved my delivery date back to being this friday rather than thursday.
I guess no matter, as I'm playing on friday and it'll be going from the box straight to the stage.

 

[Rich Fiscus]

The one killer feature that would have made me consider this over the Genzler is an adjustable HPF. I could actually power my HPF/LPF pedal from the USB power port, using my Cioks 4, but having such a low power USB port isn’t enough to be a selling point, especially when the battery I use now is almost as convenient.

Assuming the USB port sticks around long term, I would hope some future version might get an upgrade to USB C, which allows for significantly greater current without exceeding official USB standards. Standards make engineers happy. They make me happy too.

If I wasn’t singing, and didn’t need my pedalboard in front of me, I could definitely see setting it up by my amp, and powering it with a USB cable. Unfortunately that technology isn’t mature enough to be sure of which features really matter. Presumably it’s also not something that makes sense economically until the components start reaching commodity price levels. That isn’t happening any time soon with the current supply chain and manufacturing/shipping environment. Even a lot of commodities are hard to find at commodity prices, which aren’t as low as they used to be anyway.

 

[agedhorse]

In general, USB is provided for convenience on the later Subway amps, the challenge is that USB-A is still (by far) the most common jack for power sources though this is changing as USB-C takes hold. The legacy base of USB-A is simply enormous (which is why most power supplies are still equipped with USB-A). The power supply is limited to 500mA (continuous), increasing this would involve considerable expense. If more power is needed than the jack can supply, an external USB supply is going to be a much less expensive option (because they are being built by the BILLIONS.

On the digital side of things, the evolution is so fast that nobody knows what's coming next. Your guess is every bit as good as my guess I suspect.

 

[Rich Fiscus]

26517661[/URL], member: 68399"]In general, USB is provided for convenience on the later Subway amps, the challenge is that USB-A is still (by far) the most common jack for power sources though this is changing as USB-C takes hold. The legacy base of USB-A is simply enormous (which is why most power supplies are still equipped with USB-A). The power supply is limited to 500mA (continuous), increasing this would involve considerable expense. If more power is needed than the jack can supply, an external USB supply is going to be a much less expensive option (because they are being built by the BILLIONS.

On the digital side of things, the evolution is so fast that nobody knows what's coming next. Your guess is every bit as good as my guess I suspect.

That all makes sense, and like I said, that USB port would run my HPF/LPF, and probably my G30 wireless receiver too actually, which is as much as I’d be likely to care about in the real world. If I need more, my full pedalboard, including an always on tube preamp at one end and my wireless receiver at the other, will run for 6 hours off a 20,00mAh battery. Or forever from a quality wall USB adapter. Or the old wireless router adapter I had in a drawer. I guess what I’m saying is I’m not hurting for power sources, but you can never have too many options.

Though I was the one who recently made the comment about preferring to get power solutions from a specialist in the right industry.

 

[coyoteboy]

Absolutely! I am shopping for an amp RIGHT NOW, CASH IN HAND. I am looking for:
Upright friendly. It has to have a piezo-friendly input. Why don't amp designers not make the input 10megs?
Hi-Pass filter
At least 200 watts into 8 ohms...

I just sold an Eich 900...OUTSTANDING electric bass amp, not great for upright. I sold my Mesa D-800. Made my DB sound like a P Bass...it had a baked in tone I couldn't dial out.
I LOVE the BAM...eq points are not flat, not enough headroom, PERFECT size footprint, no real mid control.

Can you make THAT amp??? One that is both DB AND EB friendly? Also, with the demise of EA, the Doubler is an amp that someone needs to design/emulate a replacement for. Is Mesa game to openly hop into and embrace the DB market in a super small rig format? I'd pay full retail for THAT! IMO, YMMV, etc

at the risk of naming an amp brand outside of this threads theme, the amp youre describing already exists. It’s the Acoustic Image Clarus SL.

 

[Zoffy]

I just discovered this thread and actually read all 33 pages - whew!

I have both a MESA TT-800 and a MESA WD-800, I also have a Genzler Magellan 350. All three are outstanding amps that are professional-grade, awesomely built, and sound fantastic. I would absolutely be on board with a 350, but without a HPF I really would have to think about it, especially if it were priced over $600. The HPF is so useful for live playing that it's a "must have" for me if it's going to compete against my Genzler Magellan. That being said, I like the fact that Andy and MESA are looking at something in the 300-500 watt range.