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Mesa Subway Plus preamp

#147
Mushroo said:
Others can chime in with their opinion, but personally I would prefer a slightly larger unit that takes standard AC power, than a smaller unit that requires a power adapter "brick."
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I agree with you here, anything like this that I might consider would include a standard IEC AC inlet.

Some interesting responses that I didn't expect... what would be the ideal power for such an amp?
 
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#148
It depends on the application. I've played with a 50W tube power amp (along with a Monique) and found that it barely cut it in a not-very-loud jazz setting. If one is looking for a power amp to play alone at home (essentially a headphone amp on steroids), then 50W might cut it. I think 200W minimum for a gigging situation.

At some point it isn't a pedal but instead a bass head :D

I guess I'm challenged by the application. I use my preamp pedal when I'm either IEM or running into a powered PA cabinet. In either case I don't need a power amp. If I'm playing with a passive cabinet, then I bring an amp head and don't use the preamp pedal. On a gig I need a minimum amount of stuff (e.g. cables), so I'm always hauling *something* beyond my gig bag. While less is more, I personally don't see how a powered preamp pedal would significantly change my setup time or load in/out but curious what application others are thinking.
 
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#149
agedhorse said:
I agree with you here, anything like this that I might consider would include a standard IEC AC inlet.
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Exactly my opinion too. I was thinking 50w, but 200w would be a blast, like other people said. And I would expect it to work with the Rosette Pre for a guitarist. We have seen 200w mini heads, one of them is green and in a very small package, unfortunately I am not able to tear down the pre by myself.
 
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#150
nostatic said:
It depends on the application. I've played with a 50W tube power amp (along with a Monique) and found that it barely cut it in a not-very-loud jazz setting. If one is looking for a power amp to play alone at home (essentially a headphone amp on steroids), then 50W might cut it. I think 200W minimum for a gigging situation.

At some point it isn't a pedal but instead a bass head :D

I guess I'm challenged by the application. I use my preamp pedal when I'm either IEM or running into a powered PA cabinet. In either case I don't need a power amp. If I'm playing with a passive cabinet, then I bring an amp head and don't use the preamp pedal. On a gig I need a minimum amount of stuff (e.g. cables), so I'm always hauling *something* beyond my gig bag. While less is more, I personally don't see how a powered preamp pedal would significantly change my setup time or load in/out but curious what application others are thinking.
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Agreed - the power amp would need to be small enough otherwise you could just bring an amp head. For example, my TH500 is pretty easy to carry around.
Probably a pretty specific use case - for me I would use it for my gigs where there is an amp provided - the amp is not one of my favs, but the cab is workable. I would just bring in my pedal board, with pre and power and hook up to the cab.
 
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johnpbass said:
Agreed - the power amp would need to be small enough otherwise you could just bring an amp head. For example, my TH500 is pretty easy to carry around.
Probably a pretty specific use case - for me I would use it for my gigs where there is an amp provided - the amp is not one of my favs, but the cab is workable. I would just bring in my pedal board, with pre and power and hook up to the cab.
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In this specific case, can't you just bypass the local amp pre, by plugging yours into the fx loop return?
 
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My is finally on the board. Thanks @agedhorse for the help earlier. I split the signal into 2 channels. One round and one scooped. Blend in the mix.

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#159
LeonD said:
Question regarding the Subway+ DI Preamp. How similar would the tone of the Subway+ DI pre into a flat power amp be compared to a D800+ assuming using the same speaker cabs?
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Very close, the primary thing you will be missing is the output tube emulation dynamics management which is part of the D-800+ power amp.
 
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#160
Thanks.

I'm currently trying out a Quilter BB800. I'm still trying to come to terms with its preamp. But, I've been impressed with it's utility features; speakon and 1/4" inputs, line in XLR, direct out XLR, etc.

The power amp portion seems very well designed. I'm thinking the Preamp Out on the Subway+ Pre would go nicely with the Quilter's line in XLR.

This would give me the flexibility to just take the Subway+ Pre with me when I don't need my entire rig.
 
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