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Mid cut or boost (live)

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  • Mid cut

    Votes: 7 6.2%
  • Mid boost

    Votes: 83 73.5%
  • Other

    Votes: 23 20.4%

  • Total voters
    113
It may be a different thing that I play in church, as we sometimes have slow hymns mixed with rock and even one or two jazzy songs we do now and then. Most days I don't vary much. Some days I can go from cut all mid and hi, to full mid hi, and anything in between all in one set. Kind of depends on the genre and accompanying instruments of each song. That said, I generally leave my mid and hi at the center stops, and crank the bass almost to full.
 
With my URB I usually cut mids in the 800-1000hz range to control nasality. Other than that I usually have all EQ flat, never been much of a tweaker. The tone pots on my BGs are the most important EQ for me.

I also use both upright and BG on the same rig. I find with the URB at higher volume the mids can cause feedback issues so I usually scoop. With BG, I boost both the mids and also highs, but not as much boost on higher end.
 
I play in a few projects, A theater gig in Branson, and a club band in which I run a full mix from stage- and play bass, sing, run a sequencer. I usually "know" what my mix feels like when I run my own rig, but in the theater with a big Meyer system, I pretty much need to get out front at some point and hear where my bass is in the mix. To a point, I can make suggestions to the house tech, but try not to be a diva. I have found (With my old Tobias) that I run the Barts wide open, mid shift to 250Hz... It growls nicely that way when I dig in on upbeat tunes. For ballads (and we do WAAAY more than I'd like to) I roll the mid back to flat. Don't need to have all of that definition and growl for "Let Them Be Little" etc.
 
I generally run my amp flat and boost my mids as needed. I use a Lakland 5594 with the blend set slightly to the bridge and the coil tap set to the forward position. A little boosted mids and I'm good to go. I've been using that setting for going on 18 years!
 
I generally run my amp flat and boost my mids as needed. I use a Lakland 5594 with the blend set slightly to the bridge and the coil tap set to the forward position. A little boosted mids and I'm good to go. I've been using that setting for going on 18 years!

When you boost your mids, is it to cut through the mix?
 
The sound I usually end up with is a slight mid scoop using a Precision, and a more exaggerated one if I use a PJ with both pickups on. I always try to have enough mids in it to be heard as well as felt, but for me, it's a really fine line between just enough and too much.
 
I'd hazard a guess that the bass cut, mid boost setting originated when players realized it went a long way towards remedying "the boom from the room" in all the shoebox-shaped venues before FOH support. It also may have been the only way to carry the room back then, with loud guitars.
 
The human ear picks up the mids. I choose boosting mids outdoors or large clubs. Intimate venues I would likely cut the mids. This is so the audience may hear themselves. As the night goes on, the mids will likely be up by the third set.
 
I read a lot about people cutting or boosting the mids but I never see great explanations. What do you guys think the benefits are to either?

It depends on what is going on around you. There is a songwriter I work with a lot. Sometimes it's in a small ensemble (sometime's it's just me) with him on DI'ed acoustic guitar, and sometimes it's a larger group with drums and him on his Strat or Tele through a small open backed combo amp. When he's on acoustic, he pumps a lot of sound into the low frequency range, so I cut lows and boost mids to get out of his way. When he's on electric, I do the opposite. The point is to let everyone be heard by occupying different frequency ranges.
 
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I chose other.
By myself, I leave my eq setting flat (always flat on my amp).
On stage, I boost the mids at 600Hz on the Submarine pre-amp (pedal board).
This helps to be heard over the screaming treble guitar.

But if I'm going all rhythm section, then I drop the mid boost and go flat again, to fall back in the mix a bit.

This is my favorite effect for such things, and I recommend it highly to anyone that likes to mess with their mids during a set.
I sold mine since I'm using the Submarine for this mostly now.

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I read about a lot of people boosting low mids but I do the opposite and wonder what I am missing.

I cut low mids (400-500 hz) to tighten up low bass and boost high mids (800-1000hz) to hear myself. A three band EQ does not do it for me. I need at least four and preferably parametric.
 
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