Minor scale/mode theory question

[Richard Lindsey]

Just don't make everyone lose their mind by telling them that if you learn modes, you also learn how to construct chords.

I wouldn't say that, because you don't need modes to construct chords.

 

[ProbablyTooLoud]

I wouldn't say that, because you don't need modes to construct chords.

Sure. But it helped me a lot.

 

[Richard Lindsey]

Sure. But it helped me a lot.

Whatever works, but I think there are more efficient and useful ways.

 

[ProbablyTooLoud]

Whatever works, but I think there are more efficient and useful ways.

Whatever works!

 

[Richard Lindsey]

Whatever works!

That said, there is some real value in offering learners the most effective and efficient tool at your disposal. If you want to count the number of horses in a paddock, for example, you could get the right answer by counting all the legs and dividing by 4, but it would be more efficient to count the heads.

 

[ProbablyTooLoud]

That said, there is some real value in offering learners the most effective and efficient tool at your disposal. If you want to count the number of horses in a paddock, for example, you could get the right answer by counting all the legs and dividing by 4, but it would be more efficient to count the heads.

I found learning modes neither complicated nor inefficient.
Again, as you said, whatever works.
Modes worked great for me.

 

[IamGroot]

Nice convenient list. One point, though: Some of the dim7 chords are technically misspelled. For instance, Cdim7 is technically C Eb Gb Bbb, and Fdim7 is F Ab Cb Ebb. (See also Gdim7, Ddim7, and Bbdim7.)

I know lots of folks don't like seeing Fb and Cb, and scarcely anyone ever wants to see a double flat, let alone write one, but these things do exist. Showing the correct (if tiresome) spellings would clarify the way in which the chords are derived. Maybe the more convenient enharmonic spelling(s) could be added in parentheses after the clunky correct ones.

These spellings are generated by the scale computer, which is not as intelligent as you are. The correct enharmonics are over the right if you really want them.

 

[IamGroot]

I found learning modes neither complicated nor inefficient.
Again, as you said, whatever works.
Modes worked great for me.

Two years ago I got kicked around pretty harshly for pointing out a novel way to navigate the neck for soloing using mode knowledge. I dont try anymore.

Everybody knows C#m7 Aeolian is E Major. So what is C#m7 phygian?
C#m7 locrian?

I will leave it at that.

Modes can be really painless helpful tricks to see where you are going.