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Mixing Speaker Sizes...Again

Unfortunatelly all these discussions make blind for fundamental consideration that even same speaker size may cause same issues like mixing of 10" with 12" or 10" with 15", or 12" with 15".

Reading all the posts carefully enough I have the impression that lot of folks assume issues due to different speaker size rather then different cab design.

post #56:
" the closer you get to the same cabinets the better chance of a successful pairing,"

That reads like it's best to have same size, but not so good to have some deviation like 10" versus 12" and bad to have a pairing of 10" and 15". And it makes me really not wondering this statement is not commented by no one.

There are some older threads on TB where OP ask for power distribution on different cabs loaded with same driver size but, nobody speaks any warning that there may be issues with different cabs. Obviosly the TB mass does not have sufficiant imagination about reasons why the mixing of different cabs may cause issues.

It's right that the mixing of different cabs may cause issues but, different cabs in this context includes different cabs loaded with same driver size as well. There isn't such a thing like "try to get as close as possible" based on pure number of driver size. There wasn't so in the past, it is untrue at present and it will be untrue in the future.
It's a myth that keeping same driver size improves the chance to have a good matched stack.
The chance to have issues with same driver size is just as big as on a mixed driver size stack.

Unfortunatelly TB is hard focused on issues with different driver size and therefore totally ignores just same issues with matched driver size.

If I would read all the countless threads at TB around warnings of mixing driver size I myself (if I was a noob) could get to an conclusion that a 10" hornloaded would match to a 10" sealed.
That's IMO the big problem at TB.
 
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Really? No ... I mean ... really?
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Sheesh :laugh: .
I'm loving just seeing the reactions here. Wondering how many pages this will go on for...
 
Yep, I called it. You had your mind made up from the beginning and really just wanted confirmation. Which is fine by me, but why bother asking about it in the first place?
Actually JimmyM, Now that I think about it, I'll probably stick with my single 12s and the 410 by themselves. If I want the P to sound more "Old School" which was the OP, I'll put a piece of foam under the strings.
 
Unfortunatelly all these discussions make blind for fundamental consideration that even same speaker size may cause same issues like mixing of 10" with 12" or 10" with 15", or 12" with 15".

Reading all the posts carefully enough I have the impression that lot of folks assume issues due to different speaker size rather then different cab design.

post #56:
" the closer you get to the same cabinets the better chance of a successful pairing,"

That reads like it's best to have same size, but not so good to have some deviation like 10" versus 12" and bad to have a pairing of 10" and 15". And it makes me really not wondering this statement is not commented by no one.

There are some older threads on TB where OP ask for power distribution on different cabs loaded with same driver size but, nobody speaks any warning that there may be issues with different cabs. Obviosly the TB mass does not have sufficiant imagination about reasons why the mixing of different cabs may cause issues.

It's right that the mixing of different cabs may cause issues but, different cabs in this context includes different cabs loaded with same driver size as well. There isn't such a thing like "try to get as close as possible" based on pure number of driver size. There wasn't so in the past, it is untrue at present and it will be untrue in the future.
It's a myth that keeping same driver size improves the chance to have a good matched stack.
The chance to have issues with same driver size is just as big as on a mixed driver size stack.

Unfortunatelly TB is hard focused on issues with different driver size and therefore totally ignores just same issues with matched driver size.

If I would read all the countless threads at TB around warnings of mixing driver size I myself (if I was a noob) could get to an conclusion that mixing of 10" hornloaded would match to a 10" sealed.
That's IMO the big problem at TB.
I see your point. In fact approaching the problem as cabinet design vs driver size (necessarily) might do better to inform folks about WHY it may not work.
But, there would be less "so and so does it, and they're doing fine" of an argument to make. Baby steps first.

Seems to me around here, usually, if someone is asking about, for example, a 210+410 rig, it's recommended by the "experts" to at least have matching brand and ideally matching line of cabs.
(Not to mention an 8ohm 210, 4ohm 410, and 2ohm stable amp.)
And of course for many, as it was for me when I started out, you use what you can afford and have access to, and MOAR is better if it makes the bass louder.
 
Some manufacturers produce different lines of cabs so obtaining cabs of the same brand isn't an assurance.
Ampeg produces a wide range of different 410 and 210 cabs. Pairing a 410 sealed with a 210 vented isn't a good idea. Very likely any different vented cab of their production line then fits better to 210 vented then their 410 sealed.
Don't would make me wonder if anybody out there has a mismatched cab mixing like that. As it's just same driver size and same brand there is (in most cases) no concern on issues, even if present.
 
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Actually I see plenty of people warning that you have to match cabinets as close as possible. I don't think anyone says a 410 and a 210 loaded with different kinds of drivers is a good idea.
It's completely different, nobody speaks a warning if anyone asks for pairing of 410 with 210 but different cabs.

match cabinets as close as possible

post #56:
" the closer you get to the same cabinets the better chance of a successful pairing,"


do you really know how this comment is perceived by the average?

[rant ON]
no idea from where all that **** matching cabs as close as possible
comes from but it's like messy sparkle on the tongue
Please do the TB forum a favour and don't answer with "I have heard ...."
[rant OFF]
 
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