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Moral Situation
- Thread starter TrooperFarva
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I think taking the same money and donating it to a better cause is a good idea. I'm not a big fan of corporations and what companies go through to turn a profit these days. If the cashier wasn't trained enough so they made the mistake, that's the store's problem. Home Depot is #17on the Fortune 500. They're in no real want for money. Their CEOs probably spend that on coke for their fancy CEO parties.
Donate it to a half-way house, a crisis pregnancy center, a homeless shelter. They can all use it more than Home Depot.
Donate it to a half-way house, a crisis pregnancy center, a homeless shelter. They can all use it more than Home Depot.
And if the same cashier over charges you, that should be your problem. But it won't be. It will become the stores problem because as soon as you see the mistake you will be at the customer service counter complaining. I'm not a big fan of unethical people with bad morals and what they say to justify their poor decisions, but I still think they should be treated fairly, just like I think a big corporation deserves to be treated fairly. If you're such a fan of donating the money to something worthwhile, maybe you should be donating that money anyways, instead of waiting for the moment you screw someone else out of their money.
Make all the excuses you want, but remember it the next time someone justifies the reason they took advantage of you.
I am an unethical *******, never said I wasn't
. And who says I don't donate my resources to philanthropic causes? I sure didn't. If someone takes advantage of me, so be it. I have it coming.And unethical as I may be I still feel for the impoverished more than the rich. The disparity of wealth in this country is appalling. We have projects full of people who are living meal to meal (if that) and people who live in mansions that cost millions and buy their kids clothes that cost more money than some people spend on food for the whole month. So forgive me if I lack some morals, but yeah I'm OK with stealing from the rich to give to the poor.
That is definitely something to be proud of.I am an unethical *******, never said I wasn't
Neither did I. It was an hypothetical statement.
The old "its okay for me to screw someone because someone is just going to screw me" justification.
Because you feel for the impoverished, its all right for you to be unethical?
It's always easier to feel for the underdog, or the poor in this case. But whether or not some guy (big corporations) can buy his kid (CEO's, management, employees) a pair of pants that could have fed a family of five for a month, does not vindicate taking something of his as your own.
The disparity of wealth in the world is appalling. It is not a level playing field we are on, and that is definitely an issue that could use some fixing. But the opportunity is still there for those at the bottom of the ladder (in this country anyways) to make their lives better. Being poor does not justify stealing. Because a person or an entity has more than you does not make it right for you to take it.
The big difference between you and I is that you choose to live complacent under the corruption and I don't accept it.
And regardless of all that. If they screwed up, and the screw up managed to go unnoticed until I got home with the product, I'm not going to use more of my valuable time to go pay them for an error they made. Companies like that lose hundreds of thousands in "misplaced merchandise." They plan on it, it's part of their operating budget. Most of these companies don't even pursue thieves who KNOWINGLY steal things, so in the OP's case it's more of a waste of his time than anything else to go back and "make things right." Maybe in Utopia, but not in America.
And regardless of all that. If they screwed up, and the screw up managed to go unnoticed until I got home with the product, I'm not going to use more of my valuable time to go pay them for an error they made. Companies like that lose hundreds of thousands in "misplaced merchandise." They plan on it, it's part of their operating budget. Most of these companies don't even pursue thieves who KNOWINGLY steal things, so in the OP's case it's more of a waste of his time than anything else to go back and "make things right." Maybe in Utopia, but not in America.
And you derive to this conclusion how? Exactly how am I complacent?
And it is because of the "to hell with them" attitudes like yours that the corruption goes on unabated.
What's ironic is you don't see that the attitude that you revile from "big corporations" is the same attitude that you share with them.
You keep trying to say that a wrong behavior is all right through constant justification. But what you keep failing to grasp, is that a wrong behavior is wrong no matter how you try to sugar coat it. Through your acceptance of this type of behavior, you are the one that is complacent, not me.
As far as the OP "wasting his time", I fail to see how doing the right thing is ever a waste of time.
Rakie
Let me take you down, 'cause I'm going to...
This sums up the entire thread right here.
Both extremely valid points. This has happened to me several times, and I've taken both paths. One was obviously cheaper, and the money I "Saved" went right back to the store anyways. (I shop there a LOT)
Both extremely valid points. This has happened to me several times, and I've taken both paths. One was obviously cheaper, and the money I "Saved" went right back to the store anyways. (I shop there a LOT)
This thread is really heating up. I can only speak for myself and what helps me sleep better at night. I don't wish to push my values on to others, because they are largely formed early in life and everyone is different. If you got something for nothing, and it doesn't bother you, then more power to you. Since I would feel guilty, I have to resolve it by paying for the item, simple as that.
"yes, it is. no, it isn't. yes, it is. no, it isn't." ad infinitum...
i think that someone would be doing our community a big favor by collecting the names of those that think it's okay to accept things they know are not theirs simply because they can rationalize away any personal blame or worse yet, know that they can 'get away with it'.
i would like to know about these people so that i would know never to enter into a talkbass transaction with them.
to quote our esteemed american philosopher john melloncamp, "some people/ain't no damn good/you can't trust them you can't love them..." goodbye, ron
i think that someone would be doing our community a big favor by collecting the names of those that think it's okay to accept things they know are not theirs simply because they can rationalize away any personal blame or worse yet, know that they can 'get away with it'.
i would like to know about these people so that i would know never to enter into a talkbass transaction with them.
to quote our esteemed american philosopher john melloncamp, "some people/ain't no damn good/you can't trust them you can't love them..." goodbye, ron
What the hell, it isn't Robin Hood, geez, the guy was in there spending 5 or 6 hundred anyway, I seriously doubt he was poor.
In my book, failing to take it back makes you a complete turd.
In my book, taking it back could cost you more than it's worth. By the time I'm done with college, my time is going to be worth at least $40 or $50 an hour. If Home Depot is 20 minutes away, that's gas expenses too. My car requires me to get ultra premium. By the time I'm done I'm spending $50 or $60 dollars fixing a mistake THEY made.
Sorry, but I'm not going to do that.
Oh, so now it's a matter of convenience. But if they overcharged YOU a dime, I'd be willing to bet you'd make the trip anyway based on "principle."
Assuming you can get someone to hire you. I sure wouldn't.
Oh, so now it's a matter of convenience. But if they overcharged YOU a dime, I'd be willing to bet you'd make the trip anyway based on "principle."
Assuming you can get someone to hire you. I sure wouldn't.
Actually I probably wouldn't go back unless it was 20 or so more dollars. It really is a matter of convenience. I'm not exactly hard-pressed for money, so I'm not going unless it's a really significant amount.
Fortunately for me, most people hire on interview ability and accomplishments/talents. And the field of work that I'm going into doesn't really care much about your moral sets, not like I'd make them known in real life.
Mopper-upper at the Pussycat Theater?
I'm not going to reply to that.
And it's about more than just the bottom line. If I went back and tried to fix things every time an incompetent person fudged things up, I'd be spending more time doing that than living my own life.
This is single handedly the most frustrating thread I've ever been a part of... congrats guys.
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