You're mad you had to pay for a new version of the most in depth DAW that defaults at the cheapest price?
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Moving Away From REAPER
- Thread starter KevInDaBassment
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You obviously "read" the first 4 sentences and stopped...plus I was upset about there not being upgrade pricing available, not exactly that it wasn't free. "In depth" is a bit generous, though I do like the program. Either way, reading is fundamental LOL
SirMjac28
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I bought Reaper at V3 (I think) and will have to pay to upgrade to the current version. It's not a big deal, it's inexpensive ($70) and it's a great DAW. One of my friends uses it extensively and we collaborate quite a bit with it.
That said, I also have Sonar Platinum, which I absolutely love, and I find myself far more productive there than in Reaper. As a result Reaper gets very little of my time so I'm not in any hurry to upgrade. Sonar is far less opaque to me and much more intuitive, again, to me. It comes with AD2, Melodyne and a bunch of other pretty decent plugs.
Download a demo and give it a shot.
That said, I also have Sonar Platinum, which I absolutely love, and I find myself far more productive there than in Reaper. As a result Reaper gets very little of my time so I'm not in any hurry to upgrade. Sonar is far less opaque to me and much more intuitive, again, to me. It comes with AD2, Melodyne and a bunch of other pretty decent plugs.
Download a demo and give it a shot.
as an almost 24/7 Reaper user in my studio, who also has most of the plugins you mentioned not working for you, I can only tell ya ... well, they do for me. Without any more hassle than it used to make with v4. I don´t even have any problems with the stock plugins, loading any old project with 70-80 tracks works flawlessly.
Did you reinstall already? One can always be unlucky and get minor problems with any installation
Did you reinstall already? One can always be unlucky and get minor problems with any installation
I never found one DAW I liked for every application. I run SONY VEGAS for the most part unless there's MIDI
then REAPER, still break out the SONAR from time to time, and I even still use CoolEdit Pro. Got the V5 REAPER
and did not experience any issues bumping up from V4 other than it pissing on some of my plugins for a bit.
but then I still run on XP ! (32bit) to support my ancient hardware.
then REAPER, still break out the SONAR from time to time, and I even still use CoolEdit Pro. Got the V5 REAPER
and did not experience any issues bumping up from V4 other than it pissing on some of my plugins for a bit.
but then I still run on XP ! (32bit) to support my ancient hardware.
Oh c'mon, their product is SO cheap...certainly paying the full $60 is not that big of a deal when other DAWs cost many magnitudes more for a single version! This has been their business model from the start, and the site is pretty clear that this is the way it works.
As far as certain plugins disappearing, that sort of stuff happens in new software versions ALL the time, for all sorts of different software products. Maybe they took out their default plugins because they've found there is better and cheaper stuff out there for free or for very cheap. Without all the information it's a little ridiculous to be getting upset about it, right?
Try Metro by Sagan Technology. I never understood why it isn't more popular. Customer service is great as Jeremy Sagan (owner, creator, etc.) personally answers questions.
Sagan Technology: Products
Sagan Technology: Products
There is no perfect product. Each one of them has its flaws. I started with Cubase a long time ago, it was perfect for my little home studio use. Now I use Reaper and I like it for many reasons: cheap and easy to operate come first to mind.
When I was doing a lot of studio, they would have a couple of Macs with Pro Tools and they seemed happy about it. I can't stand Studio One but I know many folks swear by it.
You have a lot of good options, try as many as you can.
When I was doing a lot of studio, they would have a couple of Macs with Pro Tools and they seemed happy about it. I can't stand Studio One but I know many folks swear by it.
You have a lot of good options, try as many as you can.
Yup, tried reinstalling already. I had found there was a hitch with installing the plugins, by default the option to add their plugins isn't check in installation. I reinstalled and made positive I checked it, still nothing. It loaded some of the ones that I had from previous projects but told me that they weren't working anymore. When I imported them into the folder they've always been in, no avail. I haven't had time/patience to go further with it, whenever I have time to sit down and record I prefer to not have to wrestle with it. I know to expect that with a new Plugin like Addictive Drums or Rapture, but for a basic upgrade to the DAW? Shouldn't have to. Like I said before, 3 other versions of the DAW installed with NO issues, idk what the hell is up with it now :/
To be fair, it is less expensive than some of the fuller versions of various DAWs out there on the market. After researching some of the others, REAPER really comes off like a slightly less limited version of the basic DAWs that software like Sonar, Cubase, and Reason offer. It has 3rd party plugin compatibility, but now they aren't supplying Cockos plugins with install apparently.
Regardless, I always salivated at the fact that they came with plugins, but when I was using Sonar WAAAAY back in 2007 I didn't know what the hell a plugin was. I look at the readouts for other DAWs and see their samples of plugins and virtual instruments and my mind is blown at what's available out of the box. Just watching a basic demo of Logic Pro X ($199) I couldn't believe what comes in there, but they are Mac only. Many others offer a great deal of robust plugins as part of the DAW, something I wasn't getting with Reaper. Now I don't even have the very basic plugins they supplied initially, but that's beside the point.
If you don't know what else is out there, you don't know what you are missing...which is what was going on with me. Now that I hear people singing praises of the interface/workflow of other DAWs compared to REAPER it really makes me wonder lol. Like I said though, I've been thoroughly impressed with all the Logic Pro demos I've seen, very tempted to seal the deal on a Mac Mini and Logic for this very purpose. Gonna have to play a few more shows with Michael Rowe to work up that kinda dough, though lol
Most of the old Cockos plugins are still there in V.5. The EQ, compression, reverb, delay, pitch correction plugins are all there. There are also dozens if not hundreds of community-developed plugins that come installed, many of them labeled JS (for Jesusonic--don't ask me). A few of the older ones have disappeared. For example there used to be an amp sim plugin. Don't know if it was any good, I don't use them.
Grab the 16GB RAM upgrade kit from crucial.com rather than buying it through Apple. It's a low cost way to greatly improve performance.
Coming from Reaper I expect you'll dislike GarageBand greatly for anything but using it as a "sketch pad" for some ideas. Logic is the way to go IF you're headed in that direction.
Coming from Reaper I expect you'll dislike GarageBand greatly for anything but using it as a "sketch pad" for some ideas. Logic is the way to go IF you're headed in that direction.
Yeah I'm going for the $699 one, it comes with the faster i5 (2.6ghz instead of 1.4ghz), 8GB of RAM (definitely going to get the crucial kit), 1tb HDD, and the Intel Iris GPU...worth the $200 extra IMO.
Honestly at the moment it is just a sketch pad, not going for pro stuff (not capable lol) yet. Just want a decently listenable track to get an idea of how I want the final project to lean in on a song. Logic Pro X is DEFINITELY on the radar when things get serious.
Compared to my late-2012 model it appears they've removed the FireWire port in favor of a second Thunderbolt port, which is fine since Thunderbolt is backwards compatible with FireWire if you use a simple adapter (I've done this and it works great). They've also changed the processor lineup completely. Quad core processors were all the rage in 2012, and I expected that trend to continue, but that's clearly not the case. What's a little odd to me is the benchmarks for the 2014 dual core Minis (current model) versus the late-2012 quad core Minis.
Late-2012 2.3ghz Quad Core i7: 11692
2014 3.0ghz Dual Core i7: 7128
2014 2.8ghz Dual Core i5: 6935
2014 2.6ghz Dual Core i5: 6568
2014 1.4ghz Dual Core i5: 5333
That's a pretty noticeable drop in benchmark performance. Benchmarks won't tell you the whole store (in fact just a relatively small part of it), but it is interesting to see the marked drop in performance under this testing metric between the previous and current versions of the same platform. I'll be very curious to see how the real world performance shapes up. My suspicion is that the new ones still perform very well, and hopefully there's been enough streamlining of things that it really becomes a negligible difference.
Yeah I'm not sure if in 2012 they were touting the energy efficiency of it, but they seem to be promoting that a lot on their site now. 4W of consumption when idle (but that's solid state watts, of course 
), not a real big deal for me because I'm more concerned with performance. I do remember the one I purchased in 2014 running pretty light, booted fast, and didnt seem to lag in REAPER at all. I shall see soon enough, gonna have a freakin packed weekend...gig in Galveston tonight, practice/auditioning a drummer tomorrow, visiting my folks, and a packed sunday as well. Uggghhh, hope we make some $$ tonight lol
), not a real big deal for me because I'm more concerned with performance. I do remember the one I purchased in 2014 running pretty light, booted fast, and didnt seem to lag in REAPER at all. I shall see soon enough, gonna have a freakin packed weekend...gig in Galveston tonight, practice/auditioning a drummer tomorrow, visiting my folks, and a packed sunday as well. Uggghhh, hope we make some $$ tonight lol
