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Multi- power supply question...

I dont really get why the Godlyke and Visual Sound units arent more widely used as opposed to the "brick" units which cost three times as much and can only power half as many pedals.

Is it based strictly on the brick units being able to power more unique pedals?

I have a single Godlyke Powerall with some extra daisy chains powering 14 pedals with no issues. Mind you, all 14 pedals are of the same polarity and are all 9v.

Seems like the way to go. Those bricks take up a lot of valuable real estate!
 
I dont really get why the Godlyke and Visual Sound units arent more widely used as opposed to the "brick" units which cost three times as much and can only power half as many pedals.

Is it based strictly on the brick units being able to power more unique pedals?

I have a single Godlyke Powerall with some extra daisy chains powering 14 pedals with no issues. Mind you, all 14 pedals are of the same polarity and are all 9v.

Seems like the way to go. Those bricks take up a lot of valuable real estate!

How do you connect all those extra daisys though?
 
They just plug into each other in a long sequence. You end up losing one of the plugs at the end of each chain as its needed to plug into the next chain, but it works really well.

I currently am using two Visual Sound, one Godlyke and one Ibanez daisy chain all in line. No issues at all. No noise, tone suck or loss of power. Its such a simple setup.
 
They just plug into each other in a long sequence. You end up losing one of the plugs at the end of each chain as its needed to plug into the next chain, but it works really well.

I currently am using two Visual Sound, one Godlyke and one Ibanez daisy chain all in line. No issues at all. No noise, tone suck or loss of power. Its such a simple setup.

So can you use the Boss chain w/ the One Spot? I just ordered one so that would be cool if so.
 
I dont really get why the Godlyke and Visual Sound units arent more widely used as opposed to the "brick" units which cost three times as much and can only power half as many pedals.

Is it based strictly on the brick units being able to power more unique pedals?

I have a single Godlyke Powerall with some extra daisy chains powering 14 pedals with no issues. Mind you, all 14 pedals are of the same polarity and are all 9v.

Seems like the way to go. Those bricks take up a lot of valuable real estate!

If all you have are a bunch of pedals requiring 9v boss style inputs, you may well be fine. If you need 18v, would like isolated outputs and/or have any pedals with tricky power requirements you may need one of the bricks.

The bricks come in two styles.

Daisy chain in a brick
The dunlop dc brick and gator psu are in this category. Outputs aren't isolated from each other. These also usually have some 18v outputs.

Isolated outputs
Voodoo Labs PPII, and I'm assuming the new BBE one also.
Outputs are isolated from each other, so any tricky pedals that reverse the input polarity (hello, MI Audio Neo Fuzz)
don't affect the rest of the connected pedals.
 
Davidmwilson has/had one he loved it thought it was great and then accidentally broke the connector on the adaptor which is unique to the gator and would have to buy the whole unit again which he thought was a waste so has gone back to the Voodoo Labs power supply.
yup, what he said. good enough little 'daisy chain in a brick' unit, but the proprietary wall wart became a deal breaker once I accidentally broke it and would have to bought the whole thing again.
 
+1. It also has a courtesy outlet on the back that you can plug pedals that need more then 100mA. I have to do that with my AX3000B since it requires 600mA and one of my Line6 pedals since the PP2 doesn't have enough plugs.

CK

Actually, the AC courtesy outlet is designed to power less than 200watts...it has plenty of milliamperage to spare for your AX3000B. If you plug in the right adapter, it will suit you just fine (it's 120V, so with the voltage-amperage transformer conversion, you have way more than enough power for the AX3000B).
 
Does anyone have experience with the Pedal Power AC? I'm only powering four pedals; two 9v and two 12v and I figured it'd serve my needs better than the PP2.

Are your pedals AC?

Voodoo Labs website said:
The Voodoo Lab Pedal Power AC is a pedalboard power supply designed to operate high current
and AC powered pedal effects. Finally, a professional solution for powering tube overdrives, modeling pedals, or devices including the Whammy, POD, Rotosphere and many others without wall warts.

The Pedal Power AC provides two 9VAC and two selectable 9VAC or 12VAC outputs.
 
from the BBE site:
• Eight Selectable 9, 12, or 16* volts (* on outputs 5 & 6)
• Fuse Protected
• Selectable Main Input Voltage (120/240)
• 8-2.1mm and 2-2.5mm cables 2 foot long power cables
• Blue Power L.E.D. indicates active status Easy Access 9 volt
• Standard IEC AC cable
• 5 Year Warranty

looks pretty good.
 
i'm interested in the Gator too, anyone used it?

My small board has the Gator power supply. It's been working great for me!

The power connector to the unit is proprietary, but as I keep the wall wart velcroed to my board & run an extension to it, I'm less worried about wearing it out.

I was concerned about grounding loop issues, but apparently all of the pedals I use with it are getting along together just fine.

I like that it's so small and also has 18v available for my Fulltone Bass-Drive. I measured the voltage & it was @ 9.12 out of the 9v section, which is surprisingly accurate for a "cheaper" power supply. Add the fact that you can get it with a pedalboard for $10 more & it's a pretty great deal!
 
So can you use the Boss chain w/ the One Spot? I just ordered one so that would be cool if so.

Nope - the Boss Daisy chain doesn't have a way of linking to the 1 Spot chain.

If you use a DC-out jack on a pedal like the Boss NS-2 or TU-2, then yes, you could. But you couldn't hook it up directly to the adapter itself like you could with the 1 Spot / Godlyke daisy chains.

IMO, the Boss daisy chain outright sucks - the connectors are straight and the chain cable is annoyingly short, so if you're connecting anything other than a bunch of Boss pedals in a straight row, it's a pain to use.

On a side note...

One thing I like about the Dunlop DC Brick is that its surge protection circuit works wonderfully. Despite all the shorting exposure my BMS underwent during my recent work on it, nothing happened to the Brick or any pedals hooked up to it (and they ALL were). They held up without even flinching. It held up after our recent power outage, too.

So... while its outputs aren't isolated, it's solidly built and very tiny. Plus, with its 18V outputs and right-angle connector cables, they're great bonuses. The Gator is the only cheaper unit out there that can perform similarly to the DC Brick, but it has the flaw of the unusual DC input jack.

Now, the 1 Spot and Godlyke can provide the benefits of consistency and high current, but they offer no surge protection. The Godlyke Power Pump accessory allows you to power 18V pedals with a 9V adapter, but its other output options (12V and 24V) are next to useless, in my own experience. Plus, it's a $25.00 accessory... by the time you're done buying that stuff, you're better off buying a Gator or Dunlop Brick for just a bit more.

I did certainly love my old 1 Spot, and I'd recommend it to those who use only 9V pedals. But once you look beyond 9VDC, or if you have odd pedals (like ones with "positive ground" designs, or noisy vintage pedals), it no longer works for the job.

The best out there is still the Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 2, but I don't have the space on my board, unfortunately.
 
Nope - the Boss Daisy chain doesn't have a way of linking to the 1 Spot chain.

If you use a DC-out jack on a pedal like the Boss NS-2 or TU-2, then yes, you could. But you couldn't hook it up directly to the adapter itself like you could with the 1 Spot / Godlyke daisy chains.

IMO, the Boss daisy chain outright sucks - the connectors are straight and the chain cable is annoyingly short, so if you're connecting anything other than a bunch of Boss pedals in a straight row, it's a pain to use.

On a side note...

One thing I like about the Dunlop DC Brick is that its surge protection circuit works wonderfully. Despite all the shorting exposure my BMS underwent during my recent work on it, nothing happened to the Brick or any pedals hooked up to it (and they ALL were). They held up without even flinching. It held up after our recent power outage, too.

So... while its outputs aren't isolated, it's solidly built and very tiny. Plus, with its 18V outputs and right-angle connector cables, they're great bonuses. The Gator is the only cheaper unit out there that can perform similarly to the DC Brick, but it has the flaw of the unusual DC input jack.

Now, the 1 Spot and Godlyke can provide the benefits of consistency and high current, but they offer no surge protection. The Godlyke Power Pump accessory allows you to power 18V pedals with a 9V adapter, but its other output options (12V and 24V) are next to useless, in my own experience. Plus, it's a $25.00 accessory... by the time you're done buying that stuff, you're better off buying a Gator or Dunlop Brick for just a bit more.

I did certainly love my old 1 Spot, and I'd recommend it to those who use only 9V pedals. But once you look beyond 9VDC, or if you have odd pedals (like ones with "positive ground" designs, or noisy vintage pedals), it no longer works for the job.

The best out there is still the Voodoo Lab Pedal Power 2, but I don't have the space on my board, unfortunately.

Well I got it yesterday, and it really is working great so far (need to leave you some Feedback, btw!). I powered my TU-2 straight from the 1 Spot, and then used the 1 Spot attachment and used the female end for the Boss daisy chain (which I don't really like either, but I have 2 so might as well use 1...), and the 1 Spot makes those LED's shine BRIGHT! :) More than enough juice to go around which is very cool.
 
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T-Rex said:
FuelTank JuicyLucy (power supply)
This baby is getting ready for production in June 2007. We should have it in stock in september 2007. Hopefully we will show the first models at the summer NAMM show in July.

It powers all T-Rex pedals and will be used on the Get started boards from september and forward. All T-Rex pedals accept 12 volt DC. Also the pedals with a 9 volt battery container and also the Replica.

This FuelTank has 5 isolated 12 volt DC outputs giving 300 mA each. Two outputs can be combined to give 600 mA.

It comes with a lot of extion cables.
- link cable to give 5 pedals power from the same output.
- combinator cable, to combine to outputs into one giving 600 mA, still 12 volt DC
- 10 extension cables length 25cm
- 10 extension cables length 50cm
- 1 extion cable with mini jack in one end and DC plug in the other

Photo below shows box without electronics inside.

Further down you will see the approvals for the product, which are already in place.