OK so here is a Qu for the big bad boys. My rig is 3 Ampeg 8x10's all svt 4 powered each in bridge mode. Serious multiple 8x10 users ( and sound guys and lets face it, most bass players are :-D) will correctly tell you to set up your cabinets w a 4inch splay (distance between the front side of one cab to another or more. Reason being that you get horizontal cancellation of low frequencies starting around 125Hz in my case) This was a common tool in old stadium shows of the passed to keep bleed low into drum mics. So here is the big Qu. What happens when you stack 3 Ampeg 8x10's on their side for a smaller footprint.? If this causes cancellation, is there an effective way to use the 3 SVT 4's pros bi amp system to make a sort of 3 way system? meaning top is highs, middle mids, and bottom lows?
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Multiple Ampeg 8x10's
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First of all, there is no reason to bi or tri amp full range speakers. None.
Secondly you are already getting combfiltering from side by side drivers, it is alltogether unavoidable with an 810. Running two or three of them is only going to increase this.
If you want to increase your dispersion, and decrease your interference, then just run two 810s, and cross fire them.
Secondly you are already getting combfiltering from side by side drivers, it is alltogether unavoidable with an 810. Running two or three of them is only going to increase this.
If you want to increase your dispersion, and decrease your interference, then just run two 810s, and cross fire them.
The last player I saw using three Ampeg 8x10 cabinets was Ricky Phillips of Styx. He had them placed vertical with two on the bottom and one bridged on top like a pyramid. The amps were in a rack sitting beside the cabs.
You might want to do a Google image search to see if you can find some photos of his gear. It will give you some additional cabinet configurations.
TD
You might want to do a Google image search to see if you can find some photos of his gear. It will give you some additional cabinet configurations.
TD
can't remember his name but the old bass player from dokken still holds the worlds record I think for the worlds largest bass amp wich was achualy 4 ampeg 810's stacked atop each other with a huge fake svt head full of power amps on top. he used it on the last monsters of rock tour they played
I've wondered if a wedge (like a big door stop) between lying down 810 cabs would help. Making an arc like a PA line array.
Laying them on their sides is going to do awful things to your dispersion. I agree with CL400 about crossfiring being the best way to use two 810s, but I don't know how I'd do it with three. Have the one in the middle point straight ahead and crossfire the side ones more sharply than normal? Or angle them outwards perhaps?
Mr. Foxen
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Points inwards, like splaying but instead of moving the cone centres further apart making dispersion worse, it moves them closer making it better. So it does what you probably think splaying them should do.
What kind of band do you play in? Request for pics!
I think that if you are rockin 3 8x10's the situation is somewhere beyond the fine points of your sound.
I think that if you are rockin 3 8x10's the situation is somewhere beyond the fine points of your sound.
I play in a hard rock cover band and we are a little loud. I use an SVT and a fridge. I think 2 would definitely be overkill. I can't resist though. lol Besides, there is something to be said for leaving one in the trailer and one up in the loft studio we practice in, if nothing else.
One of the first concerts I have ever saw was Rush opening up for Kiss. Killer show ! I was close enough that Gene spewed "blood" all over me. 
Anyway, Geddy had four 8x10s and he had three of them vertically oriented with the fourth one sideways across two of them. Gene also had four of them and they were were all standing vertically.
Anyway, Geddy had four 8x10s and he had three of them vertically oriented with the fourth one sideways across two of them. Gene also had four of them and they were were all standing vertically.
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I remember the bass-player of Sepultura having 3 fridges on stage when I saw them last year. But to be honest, I have no clue wether he used them all.
Bass-player of The pretty reckless plays through 2 of them.
But to be honest, I have no idea hoe they were used/connected/fired. I guess "the pretty reckless" pretty much uses them just for decoration, while (if my Tinnitus remembers correctly) Sepultura fires them all (and pretty loud). Maybe there's a rig rundown on youtube that explains it?
Bass-player of The pretty reckless plays through 2 of them.
But to be honest, I have no idea hoe they were used/connected/fired. I guess "the pretty reckless" pretty much uses them just for decoration, while (if my Tinnitus remembers correctly) Sepultura fires them all (and pretty loud). Maybe there's a rig rundown on youtube that explains it?
I think you guys are getting a little carried away. I played an 810 for over a decade and lost count of the probably hundreds of times I was old to turn down by soundguys. Thousands if you include bandmates. I can see adding say a guitar cab pushed by a separate amp specifically for mids/highs along with the 810. But I personally would invest in my own side fills before going the route your talking about. There are plenty of other ways to look cool onstage. I'd rather see rush play with washing machines where the bass cabs would be then a wall of 810 cabs. Personally I think backdrops in front of combo amps is more professional than 3 810s, because for an unsigned local band like mine 3 810 cabs would scream "we don't play many shows at all" I could see stacking a loaded 810 on top of an unloaded 810 but I always perfered the sound of my 810 when it was cranking. Turned down it was kinda lifeless. So I'd rather have one cranking then two or three not cranking.
I saw a gig at a museum here with an Indie band. Their bassist ran an SVT into a fridge on its side. Both guitarists put their Fender combos onto of the fridge and the whole lot was miced up. interesting concept but sounded muddy and indistinct. I couldn't tell which octave the bassist was playing in.
