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Music-go-round Mesa 400+
- Thread starter Lammchop93
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I've only been weight training for a few months. Gimme a few more and I might be interested. 
You take 16 tubes, what do you get: worn out for the gig, and dripping in sweat.
Nah, I'd rock that thing - currently using a 400 (non-plus) and a power amp to power my cabs, but they stay stationary most of the time. Been gassing for one for a while but without knowing the state of the amp I'll pass for now.
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To me, the 400 is much stouter than the 400+. 400+ has some brightness that 400 can't reach but I liked the 400 much more with 6550s, both good amps. I miss my 400 dearly!
Really? I've not heard that. Have to keep that in mind when it comes time to re-tube it (provided I can get tubes for it).
I felt the 400+ was scooped 400 had stronger mids. Of course, it depends on how you eq it, but if you have 6550s in the 400 which I don't think you can do in the 400+ which I did it was more mid stout. Thats going off memory from like 1998-2001, haven't had it in a long time with an Ampeg 810 or Eden 212 back then. I use a WD800 now, get the mids I want and a heck of a lot less weight but if I could be young again, it would be a 400+810 for me, best sound I ever got.
Also dependent on the tubes used. I retubed my old 400+ with Shuguang 6L6s soon after I first got it (originally with the stock tubes) and it made a huge difference in presence and mid-punch (the stock 6L6s were pretty cold-biased, giving a relatively sterile sound to my ears), and certainly no lack of mids with the right EQ settings (of course with either the 400/+ the Fender tonestack has a natural mid-scoop without using either of the pullout Shift controls or graphic EQ).
In any case, decent new tubes of any sort are hard to find these days (at least for reasonable prices) due to aging manufacturing equipment and the situation in Russia. Sad but true, as I'd love to pick up a 400+ again. Great amps!
