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Music Stands on Stage??

#121
Sorry if I went off a bit. I just find too often that a certain element come onto TB and trash talk.

I am fairly certain that he had to have other reasons as well, but I never did find out. Either from him or a friend who knew him. But that he made it a point (the stand) made it something of consideration in regards to this thread.

Take care.
 
#123
Well.

I got a 15" lcd computer monitor and I built the box around that making sure I had room to fit the laptop underneath.

I built rails to hold the screen and on the lexan cover I masked off the viewable area and spray painted the back so that only the screen, and power light show through.

For the foot pedal I took apart a mouse and used some cherry switches soldered to the left and right mouse buttons. I have a microsoft mouse driver that lets me map the left and right buttons to back and forward.

I made the pedal case and pedals from sheet metal that I bent up, I probably could've used a premade box but I like bending metal.

The lyrics are in powerpoint, yellow font on a black background, chord changes in blue some other notes i.e. 'solo' in orange and white.

I put a comp fan in the box because my laptop was getting a little hot.

Works great, no one knows that I'm cheating although sometimes I look like a floor gazing goth when looking at it.

Our guitarist uses it too sometimes for the chord changes so I have to make sure it's pointed somewhat at him.

Next up, a 6" monitor that I will plug in for the drummer to have the lyrics too, we want him to start singing more backup and with the lyrics right there and me scrolling them he'll have no excuses. He'll clamp it to one of his stands. lol
 
#124
This is right up there with the argument that you should move around, dance, jump, etc. while playing because "it looks better" or is "more entertaining".

Frankly, I don't know how anyone can play very well doing all that.

You get to a point where the quality of the musicianship is more important, then, a lot of those other things don't really matter.

Of course, nothing is black and white....
 
#125
gus1894 said:
RustyAxe/Jim Campbell. Really? We're on a thread regarding lyric stands and automatically you decide to go into attack mode b/c I related an experience? So you've been in every situation imaginable and you figure it couldn't have occurred? I stand corrected, you were there. I don't know what I'm talking about. Have a nice day.
Why bother coming on to a forum to trash talk other people? Why do I bother.
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RustyAxe said:
Sorry you took offense. None was intended. I didn't say it didn't happen, I just said he was using a flimsy excuse not to book you, and that he likely had no intention to in the first place ... You have a nice day, too.
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yeah,me too, no attack,just a flimsy excuse......but i submit that ya gotta take what people are telling you with a grain of salt.....if a promoter hands you a line like that it is likely just to avoid booking your band because he has to pay for it in favor of another free band.......
 
#129
JohnMCA72 said:
My $0.02:

Frankly, it bothers me to see them with their heads buried in the stand, making ZERO eye contact & connection with their audience.
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Smallmouth_Bass said:
Interesting, because I've seen this sentiment several times through this thread. How then, do you guys feel about bassists and guitarist that have their eyes glued to the fingerboards?
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This, to me, is the only relevant issue with music stands; does using one interfere with your connection to the audience? Just like playing the music properly, having direct relationship with the audience you are entertaining is indispensable. If you aren't paying attention to them because you're looking at your fretboard or you're reading cheat sheets or you're thinking about your job the next day or you're just plain not into the gig and don't have enough ambition to care about the audience then this is inexcusable.

But if you can manage to sneak glances at a discreet music stand for the next change or peek at your fingers to see where to jump to the next octave or think about how hot that woman in the pink dress is while still connecting to your audience then it's all good. :bassist:
 
#131
For the rock band where we've got about 50+ songs that I learned one at a time (except for the first 20)...... no stand. However, my set list is customized for those "deer in the headlight moments". I've got whatever note I may need to find the starting note or remember the bridge pattern next to it. Used to be really complicated, now it's down to a "." for a song that starts on a dot (I remember it within a fret, just that we're tuned down and I learned some of them while tuned up and I get mixed). Some songs the key of the song is within the songs' name so I just bold that letter, or incorporate it. Like Weak, in my set list it's wEak since it starts in E. That sort of thing.....

However, now I'm learning a whole bunch of songs all at the same time for another group, and no way is my little full brain going to remember all the changes, so I've got a book. Already have a nice heavy stand from my community band days and I don't care what anyone thinks :).

So, if you're a group that plays the same things over and over, no stands. If you've got a repetoire of hundreds of songs or want to be able to do requests.....make sure the stands are black. I love the idea of hanging the gig poster off the back, I'm going to have to look into that one! Personally, as long as you don't stare at the stand the whole time, I'd rather see someone nail a song and be able to play with feeling because they're not scared they'll pull a deer in the headlights.
 
#135
sambass said:
If how you look onstage is more important than how you sound, then lose the music stand!

Why is it ok for classical/jazzers to use 'em and nobody else? Is there any reason besides "looking cool"? I call nannies
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Call nannies all you want. It's your right. But there is a real reason behind it. There are some bands who don't like the look of music stands onstage because it looks like people in the band aren't prepared or like they're slackers and can't be bothered to memorize music. Frankly, even though I use music stands often, I agree with them, and I never use stands when I don't absolutely have to. It's all up to individual choice, though, and if you want to use a music stand onstage, that's between you and the band hiring you.
 
#137
fdeck said:
In the case of jazz and classical, memorization is a trivial part of the overall package, so it's hard to imagine getting excited about it.
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I don't know what Jazz circles you operate in, but memorizing tunes in jazz is HUGE.
 
#139
Sonicfrog said:
I was in a rock cover band once, and the guitarist did this. For some types of music, it's fine, when you're playing complex arrangements. But why oh why would you need sheet music to play "Can't Get Enough Of Your Love" or "Honkey Tonk Woman"? It was inane!!! Thing that made it really bad, he was "the guy", the dude that ran the show. Had an ego through the roof, in a bad way. Here's the lowdown, written on a previous post.
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Well the fact that he did'nt want the break at end of Sleepwalk says it all. Although I like lyrics on the stage as a crutch because I hate it when people sing the wrong words.
This teleprompter thing sounds like a great idea, but I am sure it's not as inexpensive as a song book on a music stand.
 

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