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Music Stands on Stage

I don't use a music stand but when do my homework I do take notes with pencil and paper. I'll chart out a song on paper because it helps me learn the song structure when I am woodshedding. I'll map out the arrangement and any pertinent lyrical information, fx settings I use, etc. Usually it becomes information I can cliff note into my setlist paper sheet. My singer has lyrics on her tablet. She puts on a good show despite her memory handicap. We profit. Hope this helps.
 
So you go through all the trouble to set up and maintain a website, but you don't bother to memorize the lyrics to the songs you play or learn to play them without cliff notes?

Bravo.

Yeah, that's right. None of us actually know what we're doing and can barely play. We just happen to get to play at all the best bars in the area because we know a guy who knows a guy. Heck, we don't even practice!

:smug:
 
All I care about is playing your parts and interacting with the audience. Whether you have a music stand or not is irrelevant.

There are guys who don't use music stands, and stare at their shoes or fretboard for the whole show. That doesn't pass either. If you use a music stand and interact all night, no problem. A good public speaker can make eye contact with the audience while still working from note cards, and a good musician can do similar.

There are guys who use stands and still flub the parts, or have the wrong chart and mess things up. May as well ditch the stand since what's on there is of no use to you. I find that charts to be the most helpful if you heard the piece before and can hear the changes and arrangement. If someone can't remember their parts, or is prone to brain farts, I'd rather have them use a stand with notes than trainwreck a song. IME, people will notice a trainwreck more than they will notice a music stand.

Having a music stand does not necessarily mean that you stare at it all night. A stand could have simple notes like "12 bar shuffle in A", which serves as a quick reminder. If you stare at that for a whole song, you have other issues. Also, a stand can serve other practical purposes other than holding sheet music. The lip is handy for holding picks, capos, slides, pens, flashlights, etc. It's also a handy and unobtrusive way for someone to give a note to the band like "guitar player is too loud" or "there's a white Ford Bronco about to get towed".
 
A scorching 13 pages of this? LOL!!! I can tell from the posts that I am in good company: those who feel that using a MUSIC stand to help play MUSIC better is just a-ok.

Those that don't are on some sort of rockstar fantasy trip, where having notes on your amp, cheat sheets on the floor, or teleprompters is ok, even a visible iPad is just fine, just not music stands! To each their own, but I find that position ridiculous. And I personally have not used a music stand in performance for years- not since I last played in the pit for a community musical.

The real question: can this thread make 20 pages? Or more? LOL
 
Munjibunga said:
Well, I'm 64 and, like you, have never used stands, teleprompters or cheat sheets. But those old farts are drug-addled. Cracks me up. You pay $100 to go see an act and they play 20 songs. What a gig.

Steven and Joe are still running around that stage and tearing it up as if they were 20 something. They have to, it's their job.

Blue
 
I really think it just depends on the gig. This last weekend I had a Jazz Trio gig (upright, piano, guitar) and we never cracked a Real Book or used a stand. We just called tunes we all knew (and there were a lot to choose from). The next night was a General Business gig (reading on the Big Band, memory on the Top 40) and the Sunday afternoon was a Sinatra Tribute Concert (all charts-so a Music Stand).
When I'm doing a pickup Bar Band gig or a Rock band gig (like my Cream tribute) I don't use a music stand if at all possible because it's a distraction for me. When I'm leading my own Jazz Band I like to have the tunes memorized so I can just relax and play, but I'm cool with my sidemen using charts if they need them. It really just depends on the circumstances to me.
 
I really think it just depends on the gig. This last weekend I had a Jazz Trio gig (upright, piano, guitar) and we never cracked a Real Book or used a stand. We just called tunes we all knew (and there were a lot to choose from). The next night was a General Business gig (reading on the Big Band, memory on the Top 40) and the Sunday afternoon was a Sinatra Tribute Concert (all charts-so a Music Stand).
When I'm doing a pickup Bar Band gig or a Rock band gig (like my Cream tribute) I don't use a music stand if at all possible because it's a distraction for me. When I'm leading my own Jazz Band I like to have the tunes memorized so I can just relax and play, but I'm cool with my sidemen using charts if they need them. It really just depends on the circumstances to me.
Why is that so hard for people to realize, Roy? Different circumstances call for different approaches. There is no one size fits all.
 
All I care about is playing your parts and interacting with the audience. Whether you have a music stand or not is irrelevant.

There are guys who don't use music stands, and stare at their shoes or fretboard for the whole show. That doesn't pass either. If you use a music stand and interact all night, no problem. A good public speaker can make eye contact with the audience while still working from note cards, and a good musician can do similar.

There are guys who use stands and still flub the parts, or have the wrong chart and mess things up. May as well ditch the stand since what's on there is of no use to you. I find that charts to be the most helpful if you heard the piece before and can hear the changes and arrangement. If someone can't remember their parts, or is prone to brain farts, I'd rather have them use a stand with notes than trainwreck a song. IME, people will notice a trainwreck more than they will notice a music stand.

Having a music stand does not necessarily mean that you stare at it all night. A stand could have simple notes like "12 bar shuffle in A", which serves as a quick reminder. If you stare at that for a whole song, you have other issues. Also, a stand can serve other practical purposes other than holding sheet music. The lip is handy for holding picks, capos, slides, pens, flashlights, etc. It's also a handy and unobtrusive way for someone to give a note to the band like "guitar player is too loud" or "there's a white Ford Bronco about to get towed".

Rack em'.
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Why is that so hard for people to realize, Roy? Different circumstances call for different approaches. There is no one size fits all.

I think that people realize it, but everyone has an opinion and of course theirs is the only one that's correct.

It's the typical point/counter-point TB discussion, the topic is notwithstanding.

Heck,
you could come on here and post that the Earth travels around the Sun and you would end up half of the guys disagreeing with you and arguing about it until pacman closes down the thread.

That's TalkBass in a nutshell.
but you already knew it.
 
Holy Smoke - I'm the OP and all I can say is wow, and thank you.

I love all this input. I'll add to my OP that I'm in several groups and do rehearse three of four times a week. Also hold down a day job and raise two kids. I'm maxed out musically.

This dance/rock/cover band is getting such a huge catalog and that is the reason I have had the stand and plan to at our next show. I'd rather not, but getting everything right is where I'm at!

I love the passion my friends, stay true - peace
 
I think that people realize it, but everyone has an opinion and of course theirs is the only one that's correct.

It's the typical point/counter-point TB discussion, the topic is notwithstanding.

Heck,
you could come on here and post that the Earth travels around the Sun and you would end up half of the guys disagreeing with you and arguing about it until pacman closes down the thread.

That's TalkBass in a nutshell.
but you already knew it.


:D I laughed, but it's true.
 
Well, lots of different takes on music stands.

"I play rock in a bar band, you won't ever see a music stand taking up space in my rock n roll spot light."

blue

What bar is showing The Cosby Show?

Bwahaahaa!!

That's so hilarious on so many levels...


"My rock and Roll spotlight...That I share with Clair Huxtable" You can't make this stuff up!