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Music Stands on Stage

#83
PastorofMuppets said:
music stands are a crutch.
I dont care if thats been said already.
It bears repeating. You should be able to memorize tunes.
My band knows 100s of songs and we can play them at will without music stands.
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So what if someone just learned the song quick for the gig for whatever reason and would like a reference to be sure?
What if someone just prefers to have the music in front of them for their own comfort?

There's no logical reason not to have a music stand. It's pretty ridiculous to put down people because of that. What ever happened to live and let live? This is a stupid argument, I apologize if I offend anyone. I think this way, is it hurting you? No. Is it hurting others? No. Is it a problem then? Absolutely not.

While it's good you can play what ever you want at will, some people aren't you. Not everybody the same.
 
#87
curbowkid said:
So what if someone just learned the song quick for the gig for whatever reason and would like a reference to be sure?
What if someone just prefers to have the music in front of them for their own comfort?

There's no logical reason not to have a music stand. It's pretty ridiculous to put down people because of that. What ever happened to live and let live? This is a stupid argument, I apologize if I offend anyone. I think this way, is it hurting you? No. Is it hurting others? No. Is it a problem then? Absolutely not.

While it's good you can play what ever you want at will, some people aren't you. Not everybody the same.
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1. Ive played gigs with a couple hours notice. Being a pro means being able to watch guitarist hands or referencing a small note book on top of your amp. IMO.
2. "for their own comfort" = crutch - which is something they should be striving to get past.
3. I am not offended and other people who use that crutch can live how they want, but i am entitled to my opinion.
4. Nope not hurting others, just themselves in the long run for depending on the crutch.

Im not offended and i am not trying to offend. Its just a pet peeve of mine. learn the freakin material. play it from your heart and let it flow out.
 
#88
PastorofMuppets said:
1. Ive played gigs with a couple hours notice. Being a pro means being able to watch guitarist hands or referencing a small note book on top of your amp. IMO.
2. "for their own comfort" = crutch - which is something they should be striving to get past.
3. I am not offended and other people who use that crutch can live how they want, but i am entitled to my opinion.
4. Nope not hurting others, just themselves in the long run for depending on the crutch.

Im not offended and i am not trying to offend. Its just a pet peeve of mine. learn the freakin material. play it from your heart and let it flow out.
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Sorry I got a little carried away.

It's just not everyone thinks the same and some people like having that life line should something happen. Doesn't mean they NEEED It haha it's good you can learn material with hours notice. It's just not everyone can do that. Although most should.
 
#89
curbowkid said:
So what if someone just learned the song quick for the gig for whatever reason and would like a reference to be sure?
What if someone just prefers to have the music in front of them for their own comfort?

There's no logical reason not to have a music stand. It's pretty ridiculous to put down people because of that. What ever happened to live and let live? This is a stupid argument, I apologize if I offend anyone. I think this way, is it hurting you? No. Is it hurting others? No. Is it a problem then? Absolutely not.

While it's good you can play what ever you want at will, some people aren't you. Not everybody the same.
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I guess rock has changed, there use to be rules. One of them was if your rocking, the band should look like their rocking, which means no visible music stands on stage.

Does anyone see a music stand on this stage;




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#91
I routinely work with General Business Bands with books and a rotating cast of players. My strategy is to place my music stand next to the drum riser and perpendicular to the audience so that it's not so obvious.
 
#93
I don't use a stand and haven't yet needed one.
Our guitar player desperately needs one but he's the lead singer and were a three piece. There is little room for error. Esp on songs that are 'new' to him....he needs the lyrics and some little cheat notes here and there.
We have 5 1/2 hours of music though and do 4 hour shows all the time. I can't blame him at all.

When I sit in for a band or whatever....ill write the key and any change I'm having trouble with on the set list in sharpie to help me out.
 
#94
bluewine said:
I guess rock has changed, there use to be rules. One of them was if your rocking, the band should look like their rocking, which means no visible music stands on stage.

Does anyone see a music stand on this stage;




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:confused::confused::confused:

Uh correct me if I'm wrong Father Time.But hasn't the whole point about Rock and Roll always been that there are no rules?

Maybe I missed the memo.

You see any music stands on this stage?

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#95
Roy Vogt said:
I routinely work with General Business Bands with books and a rotating cast of players. My strategy is to place my music stand next to the drum riser and perpendicular to the audience so that it's not so obvious.
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+1

My music stand and book are both low profile and black. And they blend in pretty well with the drummer's hardware.

FWIW, I work with a duo who will call songs that we haven't played in a long time given the dynamic in a room. They did just that this past weekend and started a song we had never played with the drummer on the gig, and I hadn't played it with them this year. Currently, my book has about 50+ original songs from 3 full lengths and 1 EP. About 15 of those songs are in regular rotation, with another half dozen making occassional appearances on set lists. But sometimes those remaining 30 some songs pop up on setlists every once in a while.

I'm at a point in this gig where I don't need to reference every chart in my book all the time. But the book helps when the setlist gets thrown out the window and you get that curveball.
 
#96
grenadilla said:
When I saw The Who {6 times ], Roger knew what the words were. The Ox knew what to play. Pete knew what to play. When I watch Lawrence Welk, they need their music stands. Local bands at the VFW need their music stand for the words to the old tired hits we all love. Rock and roll heros don't need music stands. [except in the studio]
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No they don't, because they all have teleprompters now ;)
 
#97
BTW, when someone pays me not to have a music stand onstage, I won't have a music stand onstage. But if I'm doing a show where I have to back up anywhere from 5 to 10 acts I rarely work with, no way in hell I can memorize their sets in between soundcheck and the show. So a music stand it is. Try to contain your anger if you happen to go to one of those shows...I know it would really rip your guts out to watch me play and see me read music from a stand.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
 
#99
JimmyM said:
BTW, when someone pays me not to have a music stand onstage, I won't have a music stand onstage. But if I'm doing a show where I have to back up anywhere from 5 to 10 acts I rarely work with, no way in hell I can memorize their sets in between soundcheck and the show. So a music stand it is. Try to contain your anger if you happen to go to one of those shows...I know it would really rip your guts out to watch me play and see me read music from a stand.

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
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This is definitely the exception to the rule. I stand by my opinion for bands that have the same membership and play the same venues on a regular basis.
 

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