I don't understand this. If I hit a note on the say 12th fret isn't the length of the string going to be 17" (34" scale). How does the nut have any effect on anything other than the open string.
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Musicman Compensated Nut
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I don't understand this. If I hit a note on the say 12th fret isn't the length of the string going to be 17" (34" scale). How does the nut have any effect on anything other than the open string.
bongomania
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mp40smg said:
The nut is about 1/8" thick, so moving the high point of the string groove to one side or the other is like adjusting your bridge saddles that much. It's not a huge difference, but it adds up in combo with the bridge saddles; and as tiny as the difference is, it legitimately does change the length of the string.
Still not getting it. Assuming the frets are located in the standard positions (not fanned for example to make use of differing string lengths)...
If the open E is adjustable from 34.002" to 33.998" How does that effect the 3rd fret or the 12th fret?
By fretting the notes the effective length of the string is the distance of the fret to the bridge and the nut is irrelevant.
So.. A note played at the 12 fret is going to be a 17" . If the total string length of 34.002, 34.000 or 33.998 is not relevant as the not being played is 17" either way.
And how is having .002" (example) better/ more effective than having .002" of adjustment at the bridge where the instrument is intonated?
The effective length may be between the fret and the bridge. But the length is not the only factor in the equation.
But the tension required to get the string to the correct pitch is determined by the scale length (nut to bridge).
The note, when fretted, will then be different as the string will be under a (slightly) different tension.
Will need to have a closer look at my MM when I get home. That nut looks different to the one on my '06 'ray.
(also have a fretless from the same time which doesn't have the comp. nut)
Yeah I bet that goes back to why I bumped the thread - I think there are two different versions of this nut out there.
bunkaroo said:
I would check with ebmm customer service. I had a nut break on my ray and I sent it to the company to have it replaced after a local tech screwed up the replacement they sent me.
bunkaroo said:
Yea, I had to do the same thing.
Every EBMM I've had have all been the same, so im no help.
bunkaroo said:
The one I have now is fairly new.
I had an 01 and an 05 (i think) at the same time. The 01 didn't have the compensated nut though.
A compensated nut is not for tuning or temperament, per se. It is to account for string core stretch at the nut. I compensated the nut on my custom P/J with individual shims according to Stephen Delft, and up to that point it was the first bass I had ever played that was not sharp on the 2nd and 3rd frets.
http://www.talkbass.com/threads/a-different-custom-p-style-bass.755914/
http://www.talkbass.com/threads/a-different-custom-p-style-bass.755914/
Think of it in the same way as adjusting intonation at the bridge. If you move the nut witness point a bit south, that's the same as moving the frets north.
