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My band flipped on me.....????

I'm a bit curious what the stuff is that they do want to play. "Alternative" can mean a lot of different things, and some crowds like "heavy." Taking the OP's word that they want obscure dance-floor-killing stuff, I'm on his side, but it would be nice to see set lists.

Attempt to get the to only substite about 4 deep cuts for the same amount of songs you already know people enjoy by their dancing, and they'll be able to see what goes over better without having to go all or nothing on overhauling the set with them.

Otherwise I like the idea that was already mentioned above ^ about starting another band with them for that obscure stuff.

I've always felt that the band itself is one of the constituencies you need to keep happy for the band to keep working. My rule is that the set lists should be built for popularity, but each member of the band can get a "vanity" pick - a song to play just because they want to play it. Which, in a 4- or 5-piece group, would yield the 4 deep cuts you mention, out of say 40 for the night. And insert them where they won't clear a floor, like early in the 1st set while people are still getting warmed up or late in the 3rd.
 
Since I don’t dance, I could not care less about dancing music. That said, most of the people I know want to dance.

One thing for sure, if your followers are dancers, cutting out dance music is a great way to wipe out your followers, and the establishments that hire you are definitely going to notice that.

You made the right decision. Fill the void.
 
There is nothing wrong with learning different things. And there is nothing wrong with sprinkling in a "dance floor clearing" song or two. You might have to learn several to find the few that work. I would have gone along with it and seen where it led.
 
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You have a beautiful opportunity here to fill a void that will be created when those guys start losing gigs. Find your players and get to work as soon as you can. You might not be able to rehearse but you can get set lists together, get players started on learning parts, etc.

Here is another vote for this suggestion, especially if you have a working relationship with those who booked the gigs at the venues.

I get where they are coming from, but yes they could do that in addition to this.
 
Warning. Semi-Long Post and a bit of a rant....

So I’ve been in a successful cover band here in North Florida for about 4 years. 3 weekends a month. Best venues in town. Played private cooperate gigs. Weddings ect. Not our primary job but we made some decent extra money doing it. We regularly had to turn down gigs.

We played a mixture of Rock, Pop, Older Rock (Petty ect), some Sublime. A good mix but definitely Top 40 stuff. Great party band stuff that ladies can dance to and have fun. And we were good at it.

Enter the Corona Shut Down of 2020. My singer and guitarist tell me that they have decided to re-tool the entire setlist while we have this down time. They want to play more obscure music. Stuff they like. (Our drummer is neutral and will play whatever) They want heavier or more alternative stuff. Basically stuff that will clear a dance floor and and a bar in most places. And at the end of the night that one guy will come up and say “I loved your version of (insert some weird B side). Never heard anyone play that before!”

Now I get it. And they have hinted at this before. But I never thought they would actually want to go through with it. So I gracefully left/got fired for telling them it was a bad idea and they will end up losing all the gigs we worked so hard to get and keep.

Once again so called “artistic integrity” creeps up and ruins a great band on a great run. If you want to be “different” and original, then write some songs. Have the courage to put yourself out there and play them for the world. Don’t expect everyone to like them. Play for you. But in my option playing obscure covers is still playing covers. It just different ones that most will not want to hear.

So clearly I’m a little bitter over this. And I am a solid player and I sing pretty well. Lead and harmonies. So I can find another band to join once things return to normal. But wow. Way to bulldoze me out guys. Enjoy empty bars and confused faces when they return to playing.

Am I wrong here??? Geez.

Rant over!
Understood
I have a friend in a band from your area
2LaneBlacktop who “specializes “ in the obscure hits ... they have a strong loyal following and don’t care if it’s profitable or not .

I don’t care for playing for fun any more .
I’m too old for this to be a joyous hobby.

Good luck and keep us posted !
 
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Yeesh. Completely re-tooling the setlist is a bad idea. Supplement it with the newer stylistic choices, rather than replace that whole she-bang. That way you can at least test the floor-clearing abilities of the new tunes. Sorry man, bands come and go though.
 
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I'm a bit curious what the stuff is that they do want to play. "Alternative" can mean a lot of different things, and some crowds like "heavy." Taking the OP's word that they want obscure dance-floor-killing stuff, I'm on his side, but it would be nice to see set lists.



I've always felt that the band itself is one of the constituencies you need to keep happy for the band to keep working. My rule is that the set lists should be built for popularity, but each member of the band can get a "vanity" pick - a song to play just because they want to play it. Which, in a 4- or 5-piece group, would yield the 4 deep cuts you mention, out of say 40 for the night. And insert them where they won't clear a floor, like early in the 1st set while people are still getting warmed up or late in the 3rd.

Thats how it is in my band...we each get 1 or 2 personal picks to keep everyone happy. It has been working...so far at least. And for the non-danceable stuff, we usually put it in the first or early second set. Midway through 2nd to end of 3rd is all dance/party stuff.
 
Weird some of these stories! Patrons not eating or drinking just because you have them on the floor dancing? Not in my world. We have them all dancing but they move in waves. One group gets tired and orders food and drinks. The crowds move in waves. I've never played a bar/restaurant that is not making money.
 
You have a beautiful opportunity here to fill a void that will be created when those guys start losing gigs. Find your players and get to work as soon as you can. You might not be able to rehearse but you can get set lists together, get players started on learning parts, etc.
Absolutely! Get a new thing together, and go out there and steal all the gigs your old band is going to lose!
 
Hang in there... I think making plans for anything is misguided at this point. We're fooling ourselves if we think the new normal is going to be like the old normal, even as states open up (without testing and contact tracing infrastructure in place).

I think this is a great time for reflection and taking stock. If it's working for you, but not the others, that can't be overlooked. You like playing mainstream covers, and there is (or was) a market for that. So you'll be able to continue taking that work, with a different group. Or the other guys will come around, and recognize the value of giving the people what they want.

Bands are tough, especially the ones run democratically or by consensus. Maybe it's time for you to be the bandleader and put together an act with side players.

My band has decided to stay together, whatever that means. We were working on a couple demo tracks, but that's on hold. We have no clear line of sight to gigging, and live-streaming from different locations just doesn't work, no matter what it looked like the Stones were doing. So: I'm taking stock, reflecting, re-focusing on my chops/fundamentals, and doing some writing and arranging in the home studio.

Whatever comes next, I'm hoping to come to it with better (or at least not worse) chops and some new charts.
 
Warning. Semi-Long Post and a bit of a rant....

So I’ve been in a successful cover band here in North Florida for about 4 years. 3 weekends a month. Best venues in town. Played private cooperate gigs. Weddings ect. Not our primary job but we made some decent extra money doing it. We regularly had to turn down gigs.

We played a mixture of Rock, Pop, Older Rock (Petty ect), some Sublime. A good mix but definitely Top 40 stuff. Great party band stuff that ladies can dance to and have fun. And we were good at it.

Enter the Corona Shut Down of 2020. My singer and guitarist tell me that they have decided to re-tool the entire setlist while we have this down time. They want to play more obscure music. Stuff they like. (Our drummer is neutral and will play whatever) They want heavier or more alternative stuff. Basically stuff that will clear a dance floor and and a bar in most places. And at the end of the night that one guy will come up and say “I loved your version of (insert some weird B side). Never heard anyone play that before!”

Now I get it. And they have hinted at this before. But I never thought they would actually want to go through with it. So I gracefully left/got fired for telling them it was a bad idea and they will end up losing all the gigs we worked so hard to get and keep.

Once again so called “artistic integrity” creeps up and ruins a great band on a great run. If you want to be “different” and original, then write some songs. Have the courage to put yourself out there and play them for the world. Don’t expect everyone to like them. Play for you. But in my option playing obscure covers is still playing covers. It just different ones that most will not want to hear.

So clearly I’m a little bitter over this. And I am a solid player and I sing pretty well. Lead and harmonies. So I can find another band to join once things return to normal. But wow. Way to bulldoze me out guys. Enjoy empty bars and confused faces when they return to playing.

Am I wrong here??? Geez.

Rant over!


...collecting diamonds on a desert island, in the hope that a passing ship will someday come to the rescue.

There are NO gigs.

I remember being told a joke, whilst working in Ghana, where two best friends were on their way to buy a lottery ticket together.
Walking to the shop, they got into a disagreement about whether to buy a sports car, or a speedboat, if their lottery ticket won.
Eventually it escalated into a fatal brawl, without them ever buying a lottery ticket (yeah, humour works a little differently over there).

There are NO gigs.

Bands, and gigs, and audiences are all hypothetical now.

Might as well humour those guys. That way you are at least still in a band, when gigs and audiences become a reality.

When the picture becomes clearer, might be worth putting together a separate band, in the mould of your pre-Covid-19 band.

In the meantime, it's probably best to develop yourself as a solo act, and also form a duet ; because those are the only acts that are going to get indoor gigs, once bars & venues reopen their doors to scaled down audiences, observing social distancing.
 
You are correct. I don't think it's going to go over. Not with your typical bar crowd. What they should have done if they are insisting on playing that type of stuff is drop one or two into each set and see how they go over. If they work Then thats great go ahead and keep doing them. I find that most people want to hear what they know. They will tolerate a couple off the path choices and may even like them but if you throw a night of that at them they aren't going to stay and the club owner is not going to be happy.