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My Bass Is Stuck In Customs

Just gonna put this right here cuz of what you received. I picked this up on TB last year I think. This is a 30"...I think. I buy stuff and store it like a squirrel....that plays bass. I dig the etched pickup covers on yours...I want.

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THIS has always been my fear regarding the CITES bureaucracy.
This is something that’s always an issue with new laws. I live in NC and when they passed HB2 back in 2016 (transgender bathroom bill) all of a sudden Karen’s and chads were playing bathroom monitor because the police treated it as a joke because they weren’t given any additional resources to enforce it. My daughters were 3 and 5 years old at the time. And there were times where I had to go to two or three different stores because some Karen would throw a hissy fit about me trying to take my 3 year old daughter to the men’s room. Even had one offer to take my daughter into the ladies room. I was like “why should I trust you with my daughter? I don’t know you” no one in my house is transgender and yet that law while it was in effect was a pain in butt for families like mine.

as for CITES I get stopping the shipment of pallets of rosewood flooring or furniture but the amount of rosewood used in the guitar manufacturing industry is next to nothing compared to those industries. People shouldn’t act like Karen’s about it.
 
It wasn’t my responsibility according to UPS and in fact they told me it was better that it came from the sender. Regardless, that is not the issue now.


I'm glad you got your bass in the end although I disagree with the assessment that the sender is responsible.

I have the paperwork prepared so that if this comes up, it usually only causes a single day delay but I also buy a lot of goods from overseas so I'm prepared for the paperwork.


There's so much stuff that's not available in the US that it's worth a bit of pain to get certain instruments.
 
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Just gonna put this right here cuz of what you received. I picked this up on TB last year I think. This is a 30"...I think. I buy stuff and store it like a squirrel....that plays bass. I dig the etched pickup covers on yours...I want.

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Beautiful! The funny thing is I own a shorty Mullarkey already…but I wanted a medium scale.
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I had to like this post! As a fly fisherman for years, I started tying my own flies and avoided this crap. Otherwise, buy from local tiers who are in the know :laugh:...
Bad news is that it's just darn hard to find local tiers to buy from at reasonable prices. You have to tie like crazy to make enough money to live off of. I would buy flies from local tiers for the store when I could get them but was hard to even get quantities of 4 dozen of a pattern let along multiple patterns. Not sure that even Randall Kaufmann or A.K. Best could make a living doing that now.

What got me tying flies was when I first started fly-fishing in 1976 and I'd borrowed a Perrine fly box full of flies from by brother-in-law. I was fishing on the nearby Sandy River in Oregon, leaned over to get a better look in this pool, and promptly dropped the box from my shirt pocket and watched it sink to the bottom of a 10-ft. deep pool. That was an expensive experience. So then I took a fly-tying course from Larry's Sporting Goods in Gresham, OR and have been tying my own flies ever since.

I actually tied flies professionally for a short while when I moved back to CA from Oregon in 1987. I say professionally because that was where I was getting all my money, but it wasn't much. I came into the Orvis San Francisco store when it was on Maiden Lane, was talking to the fishing manager and he asked if I'd bring in some of the steelhead flies I tied (only tied for myself at the time). Next thing you know I am tying Steelhead flies for them because their previous fly tier (Ed Haas) had passed away that year. They would give me custom orders for trout flies too.

Not long after that I was asked to help with a 4-day fly-fishing class in Oregon and next thing you know I'm the schools coordinator taking reservations, handling details, and anytime the class was more than 4 students, I helped teach the class. So I filled up the schools and did that for 10-years. Was a fun time!
 
It’s a medium scale Wilcock Mullarkey. Wilcock has no US dealer and there have been two or three medium scale made I believe. If it wasn’t so rare, I wouldn’t have bothered with it. It does have a rosewood fingerboard, not Brazilian but still.
Meshell Ndegeocello was playing one of those last time I saw here and it sounded fantastic! I'm sure your bass will be worth the wait. Best of luck getting it soon!
 
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Bad news is that it's just darn hard to find local tiers to buy from at reasonable prices. You have to tie like crazy to make enough money to live off of. I would buy flies from local tiers for the store when I could get them but was hard to even get quantities of 4 dozen of a pattern let along multiple patterns. Not sure that even Randall Kaufmann or A.K. Best could make a living doing that now.

What got me tying flies was when I first started fly-fishing in 1976 and I'd borrowed a Perrine fly box full of flies from by brother-in-law. I was fishing on the nearby Sandy River in Oregon, leaned over to get a better look in this pool, and promptly dropped the box from my shirt pocket and watched it sink to the bottom of a 10-ft. deep pool. That was an expensive experience. So then I took a fly-tying course from Larry's Sporting Goods in Gresham, OR and have been tying my own flies ever since.

I actually tied flies professionally for a short while when I moved back to CA from Oregon in 1987. I say professionally because that was where I was getting all my money, but it wasn't much. I came into the Orvis San Francisco store when it was on Maiden Lane, was talking to the fishing manager and he asked if I'd bring in some of the steelhead flies I tied (only tied for myself at the time). Next thing you know I am tying Steelhead flies for them because their previous fly tier (Ed Haas) had passed away that year. They would give me custom orders for trout flies too.

Not long after that I was asked to help with a 4-day fly-fishing class in Oregon and next thing you know I'm the schools coordinator taking reservations, handling details, and anytime the class was more than 4 students, I helped teach the class. So I filled up the schools and did that for 10-years. Was a fun time!

I was never into it for commercial...just my enjoyment with fishing the great trout lakes in BC. Tunkwa has been my favorite since the early 70s. If the onsite store didn't have what was "matching the hatch", a quick trip to Logan Lake was in order. More recently, Salmon Lake has been my go-to. That store has some locally tied flies that work. Failing that, one of my sons, or his friends, tied flies and I always have my kit with me.

I didn't mind paying $2 a fly if they worked ;). Now, my health limits any of this...:poop:. But, I do enjoy the memories and recent fishing reports...
 
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Are you saying that The Bass Gallery waiting FOUR FREAKING DAYS to submit the appropriate document, filling it out incorrectly, and then waiting a couple more days to fix it wasn’t a huge factor? Yes, I’m blaming TBG.
Well, respectfully sir, I believe you have loaded your version of the events with assumptions and expectations that perhaps don't align with TBGs.

Another way to think of it would be "After an international sale, The Bass Gallery was requested to complete a foreign country's convoluted import documents. TBG filled them out to the best of their ability and processed them as quickly as possible given their significant other demands. TBG then learned from the buyer that UPS on his end stated the documents were not filled out correctly. Their own UPS contact assured them they were correct and it would be fixed. After a few back and forth communications, they learned the documents were in fact filled out incorrectly and so they rectified that and returned the documents as soon as they learned of it. Outside of this process, internal bureaucratic problems in the receiving country's systems have resulted in an additional delay to the end customer."
 
So, your country has bureaucratic processes in place that have dragged this out, but The Bass Gallery is at fault? Just a gentle clarifying question as I try to comprehend the logic here.
In my view, it could be a matter of both. I've dealt with bureaucracies. ;) A familiar behavior of bureaucracies is that they install a process that's complex and confusing, leave it to the "customer" to figure it out, and if there's a tiny mistake in the paperwork, the process just grinds to a halt with no explanation.

Either side can point to a mistake made by the other side, but a mistake doesn't necessarily imply "fault" in a complex system that seems designed to be mistake prone.

This is a form of what's known as "shadow labor." Making us scan our own groceries instead of paying a cashier and bagger. Giving us word processors (and now, "enterprise software," see above) and lay off the secretaries and clerks who used to work things out when there were problems.
 
CITES definitely su… !
Importing stuff made of rosewood, padauk or many other African wood here in Canada is becoming very risky, even when the rosewood comes from a country where the species is not in danger.
I can’t find it on their website but Warmoth is now warning you about this nowadays.
Best thing is to keep on "harassing" UPS and/or the seller until it’s resolved.
 
Well, respectfully sir, I believe you have loaded your version of the events with assumptions and expectations that perhaps don't align with TBGs.

Another way to think of it would be "After an international sale, The Bass Gallery was requested to complete a foreign country's convoluted import documents. TBG filled them out to the best of their ability and processed them as quickly as possible given their significant other demands. TBG then learned from the buyer that UPS on his end stated the documents were not filled out correctly. Their own UPS contact assured them they were correct and it would be fixed. After a few back and forth communications, they learned the documents were in fact filled out incorrectly and so they rectified that and returned the documents as soon as they learned of it. Outside of this process, internal bureaucratic problems in the receiving country's systems have resulted in an additional delay to the end customer."

Cool story.
 
I sympathize about the inconvenience. But in my view, the alternative to CITES is that every tree in every poor country gets chopped down, then all of the soil runs into the sea.

Granted, all of the rosewood that I need is 50 years old, on my Fender bass. Oddly enough, the materials in an upright bass are not problematic -- yet. Bows are a different story, with pernambuco always on the hairy edge of being banned. I've switched to carbon fiber bows.
 
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I've had some experience with customs, both personally and with my son's business with shipping to Canada. Things usually go smoothly but sometimes there's a delay and it might take and extra time, from days to a week or two. I wouldn't lose sleep over this one, sounds like everyone knows what is needed now and forms have been known to sit on desks before.

I recently did a trade - pedal for pedal with a guy in Italy. Got mine in less than a week, his took almost 3 wks to clear!