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My Dirt Bender - Another Jounal

Yay! It's here.
And it is every bit as shabby as I dared to hope.

To those that were not able to solve Boss-Level-Mysteries:
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Welcome the Boss ODR-3 Bass Overdrive.
I will take suggestions on where to move from here, but for the time being, I consider this the absolute bog-standard of bass overdrive pedals.

I'm already very surprised at how it sounds.
Can't wait to plug it in.
 
I'm already very surprised at how it sounds.
Can't wait to plug it in.

LMAO great bait and switch!

Though I have to ask; already surprised at how it sounds, and yet haven't plugged it in? How, and where, does one learn to mentally assimilate the pedal's tone? That's a neat trick, and probably one that would save me some time and money lol
 
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Well. I did order the ODB-3 two days after Josh Scott made that Bad Monkey video, but it was actually a day before that video reached me. Some hiccup in the universe? Maybe. I could not have ordered that pedal at a better time, though. Revisiting old pedals from the nineties that can be had for cheap seems the hot thing right now. The MXR Vintage Bass Octave also arrived this afternoon, but it was the ODB-3 I plugged in first.

Since it took a while to get here, I had ample time for mental practice. Hammer the Principle Of Charity deep into all level of consciousness I could find.
I went deep inside myself and managed to strangle the cork sniffing pedal snob into submission. I got into a space where I actually looked forward to a Bad Monkey scenario in which my newly acquired Boss pedal would easily hold its own against anything boutique I could throw at it.

So I overlooked the first haptic impressions. The 1/4" jacks of the patch cables slid into the pedals' well worn orifices like <insert the dirtiest and tastelessest 'your mom' joke you can stomach here>.
The knobs, of which there are four, but one is stacked, are a bit too small and offer a little too little friction when twisting. The Boss switch design is a love/hate/don't care thing. I personally hate them.
But apart from uncomfortable knobs, the foot switch and jacks that sit so loose you're afraid you might shake them out, the pedal is in a nice shade of yellow. I like yellow.
The cork sniffer in me was still dazed by my mental exercises, so I let all those impressions wash over me like a palm tree handles a storm. Bend with it, roll with the punches and stand tall again when it's over.

It's a simple affair. I won't judge with my fingers and I won't judge with my eyes. My earballs will be the only deciding factor.

For those not initiated into the ODB-3 circles, this pedal is named Bass Overdrive because it is a bass overdrive.
It has a knob for level, followed by a stacked knob that EQs highs and lows, followed by a dry/wet blend and finally there is the gain knob.

I set it by rule of thumb and experience: Level to what I judged would be unity, lows flat, highs slightly boosted, 100% wet and gain around 10 o'clock.
When I hit the switch, I always wonder about the lack of tactile feedback. You know you hit it by the sharp click when you step on a normal pedal. You know you hit it when you step on a soft touch foot switch, because it's depressed all the way and bottoms out with a metallic tap. With those Boss things, you kinda close a lid far enough to activate a flimsy little microswitch that provides no feedback whatsoever and there is that spring that creates the opposing force --- look at me rambling again!
You don't need any haptic feedback on this pedal. You don't need the red LED to come on, either. You can clearly and easily tell the exact moment it is activated by the noise alone.
It's easily one of the noisiest pedals I have heard in a long while. But have you heard the floor noise of a high gain guitar amp in the high gain channel? Right. Does not really matter because you're not meant to use a bass overdrive when you serenade the moon in a silent garden. You're meant to rock. The floor noise will be hidden with the drums and guitars and screaming fans and such.
Soldier on, find out what the knobs do.

Level is clear - you can use it to raise and lower the background noise to taste.

The EQ is also easy: The EQ is flat in 12 o'clock position. You can use the lower, outer ring to introduce low end rumble and mud into the soundscape by turning it to the right, and you can make your bass sound anemic by turning it to the left.
The upper, inner knob can be used to bring fret clank and string noise into the foreground when you turn it to the right (it does that surprisingly well!), or you can choke a little of the harsh top end when you twist it to the left.

The Blend is also one of those knobs that are surprisingly easy to set. I could not perceive any significant loss of low end in 100% wet position, but when you dial back on the knob you get that artificial feeling of detachment. The dirt voice and the clean voice will not merge, they separate. So I left it at fully wet and that's it.

The Gain will control the amount of dirt you get into your signal. It works like any gain knob on any dirt pedal.

Setting that pedal is a bit easier than anticipated since in my personal scenario, most of the knobs only work in a single position. All there is to play around with is the gain knob and left half of the treble knob's travel.

So how does it sound, you ask? With so much tension I created, there must be something awesome hidden in the range these one and a half knobs offer? Josh made the Bad Monkey sound like a Klon. What is the bass worlds version of the Klon?

Let me put it this way: The gain knob has a lot to offer. You start in that territory where your bass sounds clean until you dig in and when you are at around 2 o'clock you are at the equivalent of most low gain drive pedals maximum settings, yet you can push further still. When you found your setting, you can toy around by raising the gain slightly higher, but lowering the treble a bit to take the edge off, there is some variety here and a little twist of the knob can take you a long way.
I set the rest of my signal chain to accommodate the Boss as good as I could and then I let loose.
It won't really play nicely into the Jive, but it couples well with the Saturn VI if you play the Boss into the Spaceman.
On its own it sounds absolutely terrible. I hate it.
What comes to mind when trying to describe it is that playing through a well made overdrive is like sandblasting (or beadblasting) the fender of a car. You want a nice and even blast, with the grain size and amount of grain as even as possible. What the Boss does is best described as gravel blasting, with the odd chunk the size of your fist among said gravel. It is as subtle as a brick wall.
When the Spaceman's rich harmonic textures are fine dining, the Boss is a brick to the face (teeth included).

I'll not give up that easily, but I fear I do not have a Bad Monkey level experience here.
 
What the Boss does is best described as gravel blasting, with the odd chunk the size of your fist among said gravel. It is as subtle as a brick wall

That pretty aptly sums up my time with one of these, back in the early youth days. Bad Monkey? No. Bad tone? Definitely.

That said, I do owe a debt to this pedal; after buying it for name alone (Boss was the go-to choice 'round these here parts back in the early 2000s) it was so bad it made me go out and spend the little money I had on one I actually liked the sound of. And that one I'm still using some 15 years later. So, y'know. Cheers!
 
The Boss ODB-3 was my first bass drive I ever bought, because it was used for the most gnarly bass tone I ever heard at the time (the "Slaughtercult" record by Exhumed). It cuts like a knife through butter, even in a downtuned Death Metal scenario.

However, I could never make it work... and thus sold it. Now I'm getting nostalgia.
 
The Boss ODB-3 was my first bass drive I ever bought, because it was used for the most gnarly bass tone I ever heard at the time (the "Slaughtercult" record by Exhumed). It cuts like a knife through butter, even in a downtuned Death Metal scenario.

However, I could never make it work... and thus sold it. Now I'm getting nostalgia.

You want one?
I'll send it over to Hamburg for fifty bucks, just drop me a PM!

I have a chance to pester other humans with it tomorrow - and I think I'm done afterwards.
This seems like it'll be more at home in hard music, where its not so subtle nature can shine - and it is the overdrive for you when you really want distortion but think you need a pedal that says overdrive.
 
You want one?
I'll send it over to Hamburg for fifty bucks, just drop me a PM!

I have a chance to pester other humans with it tomorrow - and I think I'm done afterwards.
This seems like it'll be more at home in hard music, where its not so subtle nature can shine - and it is the overdrive for you when you really want distortion but think you need a pedal that says overdrive.
I had an ODB-3 back in the day (back when the only bass overdrives on the market were the original Sansamp, the Fulltone BassDrive, and the Boss). I treated it more like a distortion (spikey and Rat-like but with wider range and more bass) and actually quite liked it in a few limited applications. As a general use overdrive it failed miserably though and a modded Tubescreamer or Rat saw much more use for me til things like the Darkglass came on the scene.
 
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I had an ODB-3 back in the day (back when the only bass overdrives on the market were the original Sansamp, the Fulltone BassDrive, and the Boss). I treated it more like a distortion (spikey and Rat-like but with wider range and more bass) and actually quite liked it in a few limited applications. As a general use overdrive it failed miserably though and a modded Tubescreamer or Rat saw much more use for me til things like the Darkglass came on the scene.

That sounds exactly like the pedal I have here. For a hard clipping distortion sound, it feels a little bit too artificial to my ear (and with my gear). With the gain at around 1 o'clock I could get close to the Pickle side of the Pork&Pickle, but yet again, there were some differences - the Pickle sounded a bit more refined and better balanced, less raw.

I can see that this surely does have its applications. But in this here thread, we're cork sniffing - and the Old Dirty Bastard 3 has no place on that shelf.
 
I might go ahead and get another pedal I'm sure I will dislike and maybe even continue down that road until I find one that surprises me. I thought about a Darkglass Vintage Microtubes. Any other ideas?
Cog 66 if you can find one or something similar… ocd clone with a blend. Ended my overdrive search years ago… or a life pedal clone ( I don’t see the point in paying heaps when you can get a builder like say guptech in Canada who builds a mxr size enclosure… same bells and whilst of the blended analogue octave up, boost and rat options)
 
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I might go ahead and get another pedal I'm sure I will dislike and maybe even continue down that road until I find one that surprises me. I thought about a Darkglass Vintage Microtubes. Any other ideas?

Agreed with @theunknowndude about GUP Tech; they make some really good stuff, and their prices are already reasonable in Canada Bucks, let alone Deutschmarks. ;) Plus they were just all around great people to deal with, I have only great things to say about them!

Bass Bone - Bass Preamp OD

There's your "Darkglass" option if you want it. I actually really like the look of it, and may want it to go on my eventual fly-out rig. And then there's this hilarious and dangerous looking toy:

A(((Ole))) - Death By Unicorn Reedition '22

And, one I remember being great on guitar, which I also thought would work well for bass was the Dirty Little Secret from Catalinbread. Sort of a Marshall-style front end, with a toggle to go from JMP-voiced to JCM-voiced. I think the JCM voice ("Rawk" mode) was the thicker one, likely more suited to bass. But yeah, if you can find one, it's perhaps worth a dabble.
 
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Agreed with @theunknowndude about GUP Tech; they make some really good stuff, and their prices are already reasonable in Canada Bucks, let alone Deutschmarks. ;) Plus they were just all around great people to deal with, I have only great things to say about them!

Bass Bone - Bass Preamp OD

There's your "Darkglass" option if you want it. I actually really like the look of it, and may want it to go on my eventual fly-out rig. And then there's this hilarious and dangerous looking toy:

A(((Ole))) - Death By Unicorn Reedition '22

And, one I remember being great on guitar, which I also thought would work well for bass was the Dirty Little Secret from Catalinbread. Sort of a Marshall-style front end, with a toggle to go from JMP-voiced to JCM-voiced. I think the JCM voice ("Rawk" mode) was the thicker one, likely more suited to bass. But yeah, if you can find one, it's perhaps worth a dabble.

Those really are reasonable prices.
However, If I really went for the Darkglass, I think the better route would be to get a second hand one.
In "Deutschmarks", I'd pay around 90,- for the Bass Bone, plus shipping, plus VAT, which totals at a sum that is not far off from what a used Darkglass costs - but a used Darkglass can be sold again at the used Darkglass price.

I also noted the Cog 66, but if memory serves correctly, I either had an OCD or an OCD clone before and I did not really enjoy it. Maybe I should look at bass modified Tube screamers for once?
In that case, I surely would have to shop local and get a Rodenberg.
 
I might go ahead and get another pedal I'm sure I will dislike and maybe even continue down that road until I find one that surprises me. I thought about a Darkglass Vintage Microtubes. Any other ideas?
I’m a big fan of the DG Vintage, especially with flatwounds. In my main band that pedal into a tube head was my sound for 6-7 years. I’m particularly fond of the basic one that still has the “Era” control, that I would usually set just above noon and added some midrange that slotted just right into my dense band (2 guitars, heavy drummer, synth/Hammond player, vocals).
 
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I’m a big fan of the DG Vintage, especially with flatwounds. In my main band that pedal into a tube head was my sound for 6-7 years. I’m particularly fond of the basic one that still has the “Era” control, that I would usually set just above noon and added some midrange that slotted just right into my dense band (2 guitars, heavy drummer, synth/Hammond player, vocals).

Hmmm. Interesting. I must say that I think I understand what Darkglass does and does well, but always assumed that this is not me. I'm more like fat, round and warm, and Darkglass comes across as punchy and edgy.

The Darkglass preamp in my Dingwall has until the flats have settled - but I occasionally look at Glockenklang preamps already. I'm curious if the 2,8khz upper mid knob comes in handy with worn flats, but the bass in active mode has too much punch for my personal taste and in passive mode it does not have a tone knob.
 
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Hmmm. Interesting. I must say that I think I understand what Darkglass does and does well, but always assumed that this is not me. I'm more like fat, round and warm, and Darkglass comes across as punchy and edgy.

The Darkglass preamp in my Dingwall has until the flats have settled - but I occasionally look at Glockenklang preamps already. I'm curious if the 2,8khz upper mid knob comes in handy with worn flats, but the bass in active mode has too much punch for my personal taste and in passive mode it does not have a tone knob.
The original Darkglass Vintage is not much at all like the mid-scooped B3K/B7K that originally made Darkglass famous (and seems to have pigeon-holed all Darkglass pedals due to the way some high-profile players use theirs). The Vintage on the other hand is a very midrange-focused pedal with a low-mid bump. Alot of players consider it a "dark" pedal as the mids tend to overpower the very top, and at low gain it is quite warm though if you max out the "Era" control and/or push the Gain there can be some upper-mid edginess. The later iterations of the Vintage (the Deluxe and Ultra versions) did away with the Era control and had it fixed at max, so those versions have a more edgy character in general that gets a little closer to the B7K sounds. "Punch" may mean different things to different people, but I do find the Vintage fairly punchy which was a good thing for me in a busy band mix (hits hard in the chest with the bass drum)- for me it was just the push I needed with old flatwounds in a rock band.

If you're curious about the Vintage and can find a used example, I'd say give it a shot!
 

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