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My friend is in denial

So I just had to share this with some musicians:

My friend denied that these two songs sound similar




To be specific, only the intro riff. As I told my friend "I think Primus was definitely influenced by King Crimson", he denied both the similar sound and the artistic connection.

The same friend also argued when I introduced him to Greta Van Fleet, and I pointed out they were practically Led Zeppelin ripoffs. Again, he denied the connection. A year later he texted me a link to a song by Greta Van Fleet, and told me "I just found this new band, they sound like Led Zeppelin"

Opinions, opinions!! Post your opinions! But only if you agree with me :)

Just kidding, what do you think?

Some people just love to be contrarians for no reason.
 
Throw some Rival Sons at your buddy…



To continue this, I’m curious as to what everyone’s opinion would be as to where this band(one of my current favorites)is coming from…




I had my suspicions when I first heard them, which were confirmed by some covers that the band tossed out for a lark.


Hey Michedelic I actually saw Rivals Sons opening for Smashing Pumpkins about a year ago. Thanks for sharing!

As far as Black Midi and who influenced them...I was thinking of Sun Ra from the monolith worship in the first video, I brainstormed Frank Zappa because of the intense and sporadic music. But then vocals come in, dunno how to describe that demeanor. Sounds authoritative, not singing but stating things as fact. It's really cool and really weird, but my only other guess would be that art collective band that has the big eyeball as their theme. Or maybe that Mike Patton side project that did the song God Hates a Coward.

What's the answer? Who influenced black midi?
 
Hey Michedelic I actually saw Rivals Sons opening for Smashing Pumpkins about a year ago. Thanks for sharing!

As far as Black Midi and who influenced them...I was thinking of Sun Ra from the monolith worship in the first video, I brainstormed Frank Zappa because of the intense and sporadic music. But then vocals come in, dunno how to describe that demeanor. Sounds authoritative, not singing but stating things as fact. It's really cool and really weird, but my only other guess would be that art collective band that has the big eyeball as their theme. Or maybe that Mike Patton side project that did the song God Hates a Coward.

What's the answer? Who influenced black midi?
The Captain…


The King…


…and a bunch of other stuff…


And maybe Tay-Tay?


Unfortunately they just announced an indefinite hiatus, so who knows what will come after.
 
It goes further back. While Crimson was dormant in the second half of the 70’s, Robert Fripp moved past old school prog, moved to NYC, and(through his occasional collaborator Brian Eno)hooked up with people in the CBGB’s scene.

Even earlier, in 1973, the same year Larks' Tongues In Aspic was released, Robert Fripp played on Brian Eno's first solo album, including this track. Sounds like Fripp had fun playing the solo.

 
To continue this, I’m curious as to what everyone’s opinion would be as to where this band(one of my current favorites)is coming from…

I had my suspicions when I first heard them, which were confirmed by some covers that the band tossed out for a lark.
Musically they are all over the place (in a good way!) Definitely King Crimson in there. Vocally and lyrically Scott Walker comes to mind. I love black midi, wish I could see them live someday.
 
Even earlier, in 1973, the same year Larks' Tongues In Aspic was released, Robert Fripp played No on Brian Eno's first solo album, including this track. Sounds like Fripp had fun playing the solo.


Yes, I referenced that, but primarily I was pointing out the direct contact between Fripp/Crimson and the Talking Heads that Eno, as their producer, would have facilitated.
Then…even before Warm Jets, there was the tape loop/drone experiments of the No Pussyfooting album, eventually followed up by Evening Star.
 
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Musically they are all over the place (in a good way!) Definitely King Crimson in there. Vocally and lyrically Scott Walker comes to mind. I love black midi, wish I could see them live someday.
Walker, I didn’t exactly hear, but Beefheart was definitely in there, vocally and musically. Then they did that cover of a key Trout Mask Replica tune, so that was a “but, of course” moment for me. Now that they are sadly on hold, I wonder what their drummer, Morgan, is going to be up to, he’s a monster. I loved those videos of him jamming with the guy from Mdou Moctar.
 
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