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My guitar Player is Drowning Me

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Sunn amps may be loud, but they're easy to work around. Don't worry about it as your guitarist is taking this seriously, so should you. GET A BIGGER CAB. I could kill a Sunn Concert Lead and 4x12 with any amp through my 8x10 no problem.
Yah yous guys should get super loud for sure and screw them venues with their "get out and don't come back" attitudes ;) .
 
The constant squealing in my left ear is reminding me to tell you to have him turn down. Also, it's cheaper than other options for you :thumbsup:
Well, the problem is that he did turn down, the volume knob was on two or three. I guess the volume knob might be broken, since there is little difference, and I mean, really little difference between three and ten.
 
Your guitarist just shows up at rehearsal with a half stack and assumes he can crank it? You need to have a sit-down with the entire band and talk about volume. No one member should get to dictate the overall sound level to the entire band by forcing the others to escalate to keep up with him. It's every one of you whose hearing is at risk. You need to reach a collective decision about what is acceptable and everyone needs to abide by that.

If you just go out and get a bigger rig just to match your guitarist's bigger rig you've got as little sense as he does.
 
Yah yous guys should get super loud for sure and screw them venues with their "get out and don't come back" attitudes ;) .
We've never been told to leave. And we're probably as loud or louder than the OP's band.

Well, the problem is that he did turn down, the volume knob was on two or three. I guess the volume knob might be broken, since there is little difference, and I mean, really little difference between three and ten.
Knob position isn't all that great an indicator of actual volume, as taper varies wildly. My amp's volume is, for instance, all between 7 and 10. Settings between 0 and 6 have almost no change.

Also, wear ear plugs. Ideally, at rehearsal, you and the guitarist should not be so loud that you drown out the kick drum.
 
We've never been told to leave. And we're probably as loud or louder than the OP's band.


Knob position isn't all that great an indicator of actual volume, as taper varies wildly. My amp's volume is, for instance, all between 7 and 10. Settings between 0 and 6 have almost no change.

Also, wear ear plugs. Ideally, at rehearsal, you and the guitarist should not be so loud that you drown out the kick drum.
Yeah, in fact, I just ordered some earplugs from Amazon, hope that prevents us from going deaf :thumbsup:
 
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Yeah, in fact, I just ordered some earplugs from Amazon, hope that prevents us from going deaf :thumbsup:
I use the rubber kind. They're pretty good. Quite clear sounding, as they don't roll off the highs quite as disproportionately as the foam ones. Eventually I'll get some custom molded ones.

Still, and I say this as someone in a doom metal band, there's no reason to rehearse any more loudly than your drummer plays.
 
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Or you can always "drop" your guitards head into the bathtub full of water. :)[/QUOTE]
You can't be throwing guitar heads in the tub like that...... gently hand it to the guitarist while he's in the tub, then plug it in from a safe distance.
 
Yeah, I agree on the impedance issue. If a big cab is 4 ohms, that's fine, like if it's a 6x10, 8x10, 2x15, or even a 4x12... but anything smaller, it's best to get in 8 ohm so that it can be further expanded if necessary.

Exactly. I meant to add if you get a big cab, 4 is ok, because a lot of bigger ones only come in 4ohm.
But a 4X10 4 ohm cab that can handle 800 watts isn't going to be that much louder than the same cab that's wired to handle 8.

If you want good earplugs, I'd highly suggest Alien Ear custom molds. They're about $135, and you can get em in -9, -15, and -25db filters. For custom molds, they're very inexpensive and well worth the price when you want to plug up and still have clarity. Going from cheap 3M foam ones and these Alien Ears was a world of difference for me.
 
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Exactly. I meant to add if you get a big cab, 4 is ok, because a lot of bigger ones only come in 4ohm.
But a 4X10 4 ohm cab that can handle 800 watts isn't going to be that much louder than the same cab that's wired to handle 8.

If you want good earplugs, I'd highly suggest Alien Ear custom molds. They're about $135, and you can get em in -9, -15, and -25db filters. For custom molds, they're very inexpensive and well worth the price when you want to plug up and still have clarity. Going from cheap 3M foam ones and these Alien Ears was a world of difference for me.
Good recommendation, I'll keep that in mind for when I have enough money to finally get some really nice ear plugs. The ones I have are good, still better than the foam ones, but I know there are better.

Theaten to get an SVT witness 8x10 if he does not turn down
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Seriously, as others have mentioned, get a bigger cab like a good 4x10
And some ear plugs

Good luck!
I'd recommend a 6x10 or a 2x15 over a 4x10, personally. Not all 2x15 cabs are huge, but almost all are taller than the average 4x10, and so get a speaker closer to ear level, which I think is somewhat an advantage. But it's a matter of taste, I suppose.
 
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For me (and a lot of other people) it's the drummer who defines the volume level. Both you and the guitarist should define your levels by his power and comfort zones.
/\ This right here. As a former drummer, I can tell you how annoying it can be to be the only member whose volume can't bu turned up. Playing louder via hitting really hard just loses all nuance and is bad for the wrists / hands in the long run.
Maybe the guitarists excitement will wane. If not, frank discussion needed regarding volume.
 
Not much to add except possibly designing the practice space better. Have him aim his cabinet away from you. rearrange the space so everyone hears themselves better. A Big +1 to ear plugs if entering into a volume war. I for one refuse to get back into that situation. As stated already.....Drummer sets the volume level. Good luck and I hope the band is worth all this hassle.
 
I used to have that problem.

Then I got a bigger amp with a speaker that can turn all those watts into serious sound.
I really did that for the clean headroom.
So, one day the current guitard decides he needs to use the full stack...
cranked up.
I tried asking him to turn down.
Nope.
I pointed out that he was burying to the PA AND the drummer.
Nope.

I twisted my volume knob up, blew away PA, drummer and crancked guitard...
then pointed out that it was only halfway up.

Point taken.
No more unwinnable volume wars. :laugh:
 
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