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My New Zero Tolerance Craigslist Attitude.

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Buying and selling instruments or anything on EB or CL is a game. Ultimately, everyone wants to get the best price in the end. If someone lowballs you, all you have to say is no. If you're selling something on these sites you should always expect this and not lose it when someone insists on a lower price. Don't sell it. And don't try and haggle with someone when it's your turn to buy something.
 
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Haggling is becoming a lost art.

I see the term "lowball" used to describe perfectly reasonable opening offers like 10-15% off. A true lowball offer is what Guitar Center will offer you. Like 30-50% of the street value. Mind you, in their business model that's perfectly reasonable as they HAVE to turn a substantial profit to stay afloat. But people these days are just taking things so personally and allowing their emotions to run the show.
 
I’d say both parties were def in the grey area.
The instant gratification of screwing someone who is f’ing with you doesn’t happen very often, so congrats. I’d say you probably drove the knife a bit deeper but who’s really measuring.

I enjoy the haggle game. And when I sell something it’s usually a steal. I saw some b&w speakers sell yesterday for $40, they were prob worth $400.
 
Haggling is becoming a lost art.

I see the term "lowball" used to describe perfectly reasonable opening offers like 10-15% off. A true lowball offer is what Guitar Center will offer you. Like 30-50% of the street value. Mind you, in their business model that's perfectly reasonable as they HAVE to turn a substantial profit to stay afloat. But people these days are just taking things so personally and allowing their emotions to run the show.

Not only that, but instead of understanding it as a business proposal we have elected to take it as a personal affront to our man-feelings.
 
I've got two basses and two guitars selling on CL right now, and the first offer was someone who wanted to buy one of each - and then followed it up with "I'll offer (20% less) and do you a favor by taking them off your hands."

Gee, thanks for the favor, dude. The prices are already low, the listing says FIRM, and there's a lot of other stuff along with the instruments - cases, strings, etc. I made a counter-offer of $100 less and they walked - which is what I was hoping for. (Actually, they just stopped communicating, another strike against.)

I get haggling, but I'm not the one whom they're doing the favor. However, I expected nothing less from CL.

If it's expected to haggle on CL why set a firm price? Just set it higher than your firm price and let a buyer talk you down to what you want. Sometimes they will agree to a price higher than you thought.
 
If it's expected to haggle on CL why set a firm price? Just set it higher than your firm price and let a buyer talk you down to what you want. Sometimes they will agree to a price higher than you thought.

I do it because I assume buyers are doing their own research and also know what a fair price is. If I set my price above market, who is going to contact me to buy that item? There are plenty of overpriced ads you see up for six months or more, and this is why.
 
Imagine what a headache he might have been had I actually met him. And he didn't just ask, he threatened me and that he was going to walk away. I'm not doing business that way anymore.

Sometimes you determine later than you'd like that it is not worth meeting someone. My biggest problem with CL is dealing with people who have all the time in the world. I do not. Work takes up 65+ hours a week for me and I tend to get irate when people are wasting it. I'm probably not alone there.

I see no problem at all with responding to profanity with profanity. If you don't want to start a fight, don't throw the first punch. It's a pretty simple rule.

The only time I'd engage in renegotiation after a price was agreed to as a buyer or seller is if the item was misrepresented in some way. Anything else and someone is being an unreasonable expletive and should be told to go bugger off in whatever unfriendly terms one favors.
 
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As petty as the guy that agreed to $600 in order to get the seller to call off other buyers and consider the item off the table? Then made up a line about traffic and tried to get a better price?
Imagine you own a business and interview 10 people for a position... you decide on one and he accepts for $20/hr.... then, 2 weeks later, after the hiring process and some training... he says that he wants $25/hr or he walks.
Is that fair? Now that you've already told the other 9 people that they didnt get the job, so they all took other offers?
This buyer agreed to $600, then tried to go back on that. At that point, all bets are off and he isnt owed any kindness.
If fact, he was the first of 4 responses I contacted the first day and at his request, I would hold it for him.
 
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I do it because I assume buyers are doing their own research and also know what a fair price is. If I set my price above market, who is going to contact me to buy that item? There are plenty of overpriced ads you see up for six months or more, and this is why.

It's like an ice breaker. I won't contact you if you set it high and say price firm (actually I still would low-ball you cause you never know) but instead say "shoot me an offer" and see if you can meet a price you both like. You still only have to say no if you don't like it. After a bit of back and forth I bet you will get to something acceptable.

You can set a fair price all you want but people are still going to expect to get it for less than you ask.
 
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