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My rented backline adventures

Yesterday, I did a show with a backlined 4 Pro and fridge setup. It sounded great when it was working. Not sure what the issue was, but it had intermittent sound. I didn't have time to play with the settings. Other than taking a quick look at the EQ, I left it alone. I did one song with it cutting in and out, then I turned the master down and just listened listened to the drum monitor.

There were several bassists using the same rig. Not all of them experienced the same problem. The two of us who played Stingrays had issues. It's odd, because my Stingray5 is no louder than many passive basses.

Anyone else ever experience something like that with a 4 Pro?
 
Been a while since my last entry...this was my rental rig tonight for my gig in New Orleans:

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Only I'm sure this one was a lot better than the one I got. Even my REDDI couldn't make it sound good. Oh sure, they had an SVT-CL and 410he (BTW, I'm getting really annoyed at our drummer telling them I want a 410 instead of an 810), but one of the crew guys dropped it and broke it yesterday. So I went ampless, and I hated life for two shows. But as usual, nobody's going to stop the show because of a broken bass amp, so I had to make do. Grrrrrrr.
 
That sucks Jimmy, felt your pain reading this last one... Great thread BTW.
What's the deal with your drummer and the 410 vs 810 ?
Bowzer doesn't like to hear bass, so when he advances Bowzer gigs, he always tells them to bring me a 410. It's absolute nonsense because I'm never louder with the 810 and he knows it, but I guess he's playing psychology with him. Lame, but I've tried and tried to make him stop it and he won't. Maybe if I turn up ridiculously loud the next time he gets me a 410...hey, it's all blowing past my knees and I can't hear it, right?

:D
 
Bowzer doesn't like to hear bass, so when he advances Bowzer gigs, he always tells them to bring me a 410. It's absolute nonsense because I'm never louder with the 810 and he knows it, but I guess he's playing psychology with him. Lame, but I've tried and tried to make him stop it and he won't. Maybe if I turn up ridiculously loud the next time he gets me a 410...hey, it's all blowing past my knees and I can't hear it, right?



:D


Right... Yes, ha ha... Boo, damn greaser... (Just kidding) Lol.

Why do the bass players always have to be the mature ones (excepting maybe FLEA) with knowledge of sound n' stuff and always wiling to compromise on ego-ish issues... Reminds me of Derek Smalls in Spinal Tap, luke warm water... Good on you for being a pro about then (as usual)...
:)
 
I'm guessing this is an action shot of both JimmyM and the aforementioned rig...

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Wait, wait wait! You mean Jimmy ISN'T a tiny James Brown lookalike wearing a Devo hat??? :D:D:D

I can relate the supplied backline horror stories. Our tech rider specifies either a Marshall VBA400 + 2x VBC412 rig or SVT-CL + 810e rig for me. I most often get an SVT rig, once got the Marshall rig (last year at the Sweden Rock festival), and have gotten all sorts of other abominations... one that always sticks out in my mind was from 2005. We played a festival named Metalcamp in Slovenia. The amp they supplied me was some kind of Yamaha combo. I literally had to have the preamp AND master dimed just to be able to hear myself, and it sounded like crap (of course) The "monitors" were no help either. Anyway, I got through the set, and we were packing up backstage when the next band started to play. About halfway through their first song, a literal mushroom cloud came out of the top of that Yamaha combo, and it went to amp heaven (or more likely amp HELL). :spit:

Cheers!
:bassist::bassist::bassist:
 
Wait, wait wait! You mean Jimmy ISN'T a tiny James Brown lookalike wearing a Devo hat??? :D:D:D
No, but Merrillee is ;)

I can relate the supplied backline horror stories. Our tech rider specifies either a Marshall VBA400 + 2x VBC412 rig or SVT-CL + 810e rig for me. I most often get an SVT rig, once got the Marshall rig (last year at the Sweden Rock festival), and have gotten all sorts of other abominations... one that always sticks out in my mind was from 2005. We played a festival named Metalcamp in Slovenia. The amp they supplied me was some kind of Yamaha combo. I literally had to have the preamp AND master dimed just to be able to hear myself, and it sounded like crap (of course) The "monitors" were no help either. Anyway, I got through the set, and we were packing up backstage when the next band started to play. About halfway through their first song, a literal mushroom cloud came out of the top of that Yamaha combo, and it went to amp heaven (or more likely amp HELL). :spit:

Cheers!
:bassist::bassist::bassist:
Slovenia? Ever do a gig with Winny Puhh from Estonia? Great band, if a little...um...odd. That's great that they supply a metal band with a little Yammy combo, BTW. That must have looked awesome ;)
 
I predict that this thread will clearly illustrate a couple of things that many of us already know:

A working pro can make nearly anything work - and that Jimmy is indeed a working pro...

I'd be less than happy if I had to gig that "rig" - but would roll up my sleeves, get the job done, and collect my pay... I *might* be tempted the "accidentally" blow that POS up at the end of the gig, so that no one else was ever subjected to it again - but *probably* wouldn't do it...


- georgestrings

Quoting an old post from the beginning of the thread, without having read all ten pages, which I know is looked down upon, but yeah, pretty much agreed here.

After all, the show must go on, and I'm sure it did. Even if it must have been frustrating to have a combo with crackly controls supplied as "backline."
 
That's gotta suck. Most of the venues we played and back line is provided they just provide a common cab which they mic up. for example ampeg 810 And you use your own head. That way they never have to move the mic they just make adjustments at the board. Some places you don't have to bring anything as the sound guy has a bass pre back at the board and they have decent side fills on the stage. I'm not really Into that though, like to atleast run a sans amp that i dialed in. I did play one gig though where i ran through a ampeg svp classic pre amp i think it was direct. They had a nice 212 community wedge that i thought sounded great. Probably wouldn't work good for low b but for my 4 string it sounded fantastic.

Having a house 810 that everyone just runs their own head into sounds like a good way to do it.
 
Bowzer doesn't like to hear bass, so when he advances Bowzer gigs, he always tells them to bring me a 410. It's absolute nonsense because I'm never louder with the 810 and he knows it, but I guess he's playing psychology with him. Lame, but I've tried and tried to make him stop it and he won't. Maybe if I turn up ridiculously loud the next time he gets me a 410...hey, it's all blowing past my knees and I can't hear it, right?

:D

That could be a good justification. "How am I supposed to hear myself without turning way up? My ears aren't on the backs of my knees!"