Nate Newton distorsion sound

[VincBzlc]

Hey Everybody,

I'm in love with the sound of Nate Newton, Converge's metalhead bassist. Unfortunalety I can't afford his terrifics Orange heads, so I'm wondering how could I be close to his sound, but for a couple of bucks only (like, with a preamp or something, 300€ max)... I mean, hot to obtain such an organic tube drive like this :


Does anyone have an idea ?

 

[knumbskull]

That sounds very ProCo Rat-like to me, don’t know if that’s what it actually is.

lots of options for Rat variants -Fuzzrocious, Idiotbox, Mosky, even ProCo…

 

[bassbrad]

The Joyo Oxford Sound has that grind and klank of Orange amps

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[VincBzlc]

The Joyo Oxford Sound has that grind and klank of Orange amps

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Isn't it a guitar pedal ? You think it could be great with a bass ?

 

[cataract]

Get a Tronographic Rusty Box
Set it to “almost” breaking up
Run something dirty into it
(ie: Tech 21 SansAmp Oxford, EAE Model feT)
Profit!
Or just get a Rusty Box & set it to wild grind. This is a pretty simple tone to achieve with these circuits

 

[whoismarykelly]

Its a Kurt Ballou tone so its definitely multiple mics on the cabinets and a blend of clean amps and distorted amps. There is also some kind of modulation effect. Hard to reproduce that kind of sound with a single pedal.

 

[Lammchop93]

tech 21 oxford:

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[bassness]

tech 21 oxford:

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That's actually a decent price for the Oxford since they're pretty much unavailable

 

[bassbrad]

Isn't it a guitar pedal ? You think it could be great with a bass ?

It is voiced to work with guitar and bass and is a clone of the Oxford pedal that @Lammchop93 suggested.

 

[metron]

I get something in that ballpark running a Darkglass AO into a Damnation MBD. Not the same, but it has a supersaturated blowtorch distortion vibe. Something unusual is going on in the high end there though.

 

[_One//Man//Mutiny_]

Those Joyo’s are sweet! They cut corners in all the right places, mainly cosmetics

 

[spatters]

Its a Kurt Ballou tone so its definitely multiple mics on the cabinets and a blend of clean amps and distorted amps. There is also some kind of modulation effect. Hard to reproduce that kind of sound with a single pedal.

^ Correct. I hear a clean signal, a distorted signal, and a subtle bit of chorus or flange, probably on the distorted channel.

To get all the elements of this tone, @VincBzlc will need either need two amps, a signal chain that lets him mix two independent effects chains...

...but he can probably get about 80-90% of the way there with a dirt box with wet/dry mix, plus a chorus with wet/dry mix. Dirt box at about 70% wet, chorus at about 30% wet, tweak from there.

Note that the Joyo has no wet/dry mix, and thus won't help to cop that tone.

One could also simulate this same signal chain with a modeling processor like a Zoom B1 Four. I might try it later!

 

[Lebowsky]

Or just get a Rusty Box & set it to wild grind. This is a pretty simple tone to achieve with these circuits

Definitely. First thing that came to mind listening to the clip.

 

[whoismarykelly]

The modulation could also be a phase alignment quirk rather than an actual effect. A Damnation Audio Loop Blender with a rat or similar grindy drive could probably get most of the way. Bright bass too.

 

[SunnBass]

Nate runs two amp, two cabs.
Orange Amplifiers AD200B 200W Tube Bass Amp Head for low-end.
Orange Thunderverb 200-Watt Tube Guitar Amp Head for mids and treble.
So basically anything replicating the Orange sound may get you in the vicinity.
Also remember, chasing studio recorded tone can and will drive you insane. There is so much more going on in the signal than just instruments, pedals, and amps.

 

[cataract]

Also remember, chasing studio recorded tone can and will drive you insane. There is so much more going on in the signal than just instruments, pedals, and amps.

This is true. Personally I’ve stumbled upon some truly incredible tones in the seeking process though. Mish mashing pedals is one of my fave pastimes now lol

 

[VincBzlc]

Thank you guys for your answers, it will definitely help me !

 

[Mike Rowland]

Isn't the Orange Bass Butler a bass pre/hi gain guitar amp in a box?

A big part of Nate's sound is that he plays hard, often strumming power chords. Rockin'.

 

[NKBassman]

Kurt Ballou is the master, so take those recorded tones with a grain of salt.
I don't know about Converge specifically, but I think a lot of guys in that east coast heavy music scene seem to like the Fulltone Bass Drive.

 

[Aidenn7]

Providence stampede dt or stampede od..or Lone Wolf Audio The Vigilante into an orange preamp.. Inner phasing frequencies are causing the modulation crap.. A phrase 45.. Turned down will do that