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NBD - Fender American Professional Classic

Sep 12, 2004
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I mentioned this in the Pro Classic thread, but I went to the local shop to play some Fender American Pro IIs, because I was pretty certain that is the model Precision I wanted. I decided to buy something locally so I would know if it was a dog or not, and not have to hope to get lucky with an online buy. Also, I have not bought a new bass in many many years, so that was another factor.

On paper the Pro II seemed like what I needed. So I sat down with some and played them - maple neck, rosewood neck, checked tuners, played chords in the high frets to see how the modern cutaway felt...etc. I thought the tone as good, didn't love the higher frets, wasn't as sold as I thought I would be. But I still thought they were quite good. Next to them were the Pro Classics, basses I wrote off because they didn't really make as much sense on paper. But I still figured why not try one. So I did, and I immediately thought that to me, these basses were quite great. I liked the look more, but the neck also felt faster with the medium jumbo frets and modern C shape. The radius is perfect, and upper fret access was no problem. So I didn't really see the benefit of the high cutaway. I have been playing P basses forever, so I may just be used to the necks, but regardless it did not matter. I don't really care about string through body, but I did think the AM Pro II bridge was pretty cool. That said, the tuners on the Pro Classic are super smooth (Gotoh) and I liked them as much if not more than the Pro II. Another thing I never thought much about until I had good ones - the knobs. The knobs on this bass are the best. Super smooth and premium. If you also play synths, you will appreciate this detail. The knobs feel like opening a filter on a quality synth. While the bridge is not high mass, it is a very quality version of the traditional Fender bridge, which has always worked for me.

Tonally, I also preferred the Classic. It's such a good sound - very warm and round but more clarity in the highs. This is where the Classic really separated itself for me. It is just so responsive and sounds fantastic. I owned an American Vintage Original 60's, which is more expensive, but the Classic is much much better - imo. Better tuners, bridge and the pickup has more mojo to it.

I don't mean to trigger anyone because all these Fender basses are awesome. The Am Pro II is great, but the Classic just feels like a classic P bass with modern perks, like a faster neck, much nicer tuners and mine also weighs under 9 pounds. It also lets you adjust the rod at the headstock, which I appreciate. It does not have a bone nut, but I have some of those sitting at the house, so that's an easy upgrade. It also does not come with the hardshell case, but I was trying to get a price on a Pro II without the case because I don't need that anyway. It does come with a gig bag, which is fine, I don't really need it but I couldn't waive it for a discount.

Anyway, I suspect this model may go under the radar and you can already negotiate a brand new one for $1500 or so including tax. They are incredibly good basses and (IMO) much better than the American Vintage, which is rather expensive for what it is. So if you are looking at the different options, make sure and at least play one of these basses before assuming it's nothing special, like I did. It has the most vibe of the 3 for me. And the maple neck version was also sick, I had to go back and forth before I picked this one because they both played great. They also look amazing, which is a nice bonus.
 

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I don't mean to trigger anyone because all these Fender basses are awesome. The Am Pro II is great, but the Classic just feels like a classic P bass with modern perks, like a faster neck, much nicer tuners and mine also weighs under 9 pounds.
I think you did it the right way. You sat down with them and went home with the one you loved the most.

Had you walked into a different shop on a different day, maybe the Pro II would have grabbed you. Who knows. But at least this way you know you picked a winner.
 
I mentioned this in the Pro Classic thread, but I went to the local shop to play some Fender American Pro IIs, because I was pretty certain that is the model Precision I wanted. I decided to buy something locally so I would know if it was a dog or not, and not have to hope to get lucky with an online buy. Also, I have not bought a new bass in many many years, so that was another factor.

On paper the Pro II seemed like what I needed. So I sat down with some and played them - maple neck, rosewood neck, checked tuners, played chords in the high frets to see how the modern cutaway felt...etc. I thought the tone as good, didn't love the higher frets, wasn't as sold as I thought I would be. But I still thought they were quite good. Next to them were the Pro Classics, basses I wrote off because they didn't really make as much sense on paper. But I still figured why not try one. So I did, and I immediately thought that to me, these basses were quite great. I liked the look more, but the neck also felt faster with the medium jumbo frets and modern C shape. The radius is perfect, and upper fret access was no problem. So I didn't really see the benefit of the high cutaway. I have been playing P basses forever, so I may just be used to the necks, but regardless it did not matter. I don't really care about string through body, but I did think the AM Pro II bridge was pretty cool. That said, the tuners on the Pro Classic are super smooth (Gotoh) and I liked them as much if not more than the Pro II. Another thing I never thought much about until I had good ones - the knobs. The knobs on this bass are the best. Super smooth and premium. If you also play synths, you will appreciate this detail. The knobs feel like opening a filter on a quality synth. While the bridge is not high mass, it is a very quality version of the traditional Fender bridge, which has always worked for me.

Tonally, I also preferred the Classic. It's such a good sound - very warm and round but more clarity in the highs. This is where the Classic really separated itself for me. It is just so responsive and sounds fantastic. I owned an American Vintage Original 60's, which is more expensive, but the Classic is much much better - imo. Better tuners, bridge and the pickup has more mojo to it.

I don't mean to trigger anyone because all these Fender basses are awesome. The Am Pro II is great, but the Classic just feels like a classic P bass with modern perks, like a faster neck, much nicer tuners and mine also weighs under 9 pounds. It also lets you adjust the rod at the headstock, which I appreciate. It does not have a bone nut, but I have some of those sitting at the house, so that's an easy upgrade. It also does not come with the hardshell case, but I was trying to get a price on a Pro II without the case because I don't need that anyway. It does come with a gig bag, which is fine, I don't really need it but I couldn't waive it for a discount.

Anyway, I suspect this model may go under the radar and you can already negotiate a brand new one for $1500 or so including tax. They are incredibly good basses and (IMO) much better than the American Vintage, which is rather expensive for what it is. So if you are looking at the different options, make sure and at least play one of these basses before assuming it's nothing special, like I did. It has the most vibe of the 3 for me. And the maple neck version was also sick, I had to go back and forth before I picked this one because they both played great. They also look amazing, which is a nice bonus.
What a beauty! I wonder what pickups they put in these?
 
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What a beauty! I wonder what pickups they put in these?
They are new ones called the coastline split pickup. They say it’s a 60s style but has a more open high end. It’s the best pbass pickup I have heard from a fender. My prior favorite was the PV63, but this one has a lot more range to it.

It was pretty dramatic going from the pro ii to this one. And the pro ii sounds very good. But this pickup is crazy. It can work for old school tones but also has a lot of bite for aggressive sounds as well. Probably why the put they grease bucket filter on it.
 
Gorgeous bass, nice to see a good review, I was skeptical about this line as on paper it seemed a little superfluous and a mish mash of features at first with all the other options in other lines…but now that I think about it, it makes more sense as an alternative to the AmProII: I know the V-Mod pickup in the AmProII line wouldn’t do it for me (all Alnico 5 or bust for me!), I don’t like string through bridges, I don’t like heel adjustment truss rods… and I can live without a contoured cutaway… yeah, this Am Pro Classic line looks pretty sweet actually! 😁 I am curious about the Coastline pickup, Fender says it’s hot wound, which I don’t usually prefer, as that tends to cause a pickup to lose sweetness of the top end to my ears. But OP’s description of it is pretty encouraging. If only they made a AmPro Classic P bass in Olympic White… 🤪

sorta OCD question, OP did it come with a truss rod tool and is it the same diameter as usual for Fender basses, 3/16”?
 
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I would still update to v/t/b and Maybe Hipshot tuners.anyone know how different they feel from the mim's?
This is a precision bass so not sure what you mean there. It would be crazy to update the pickup on this before using it for a while. It’s an incredibly good sound. This is what I meant about playing stuff before assuming anything.

Higher quality than a MIM. It’s a USA fender. Feels the same as the pro ii in terms of quality. Better quality than the vintera classic, which doesn’t have a great pickup to my ears and seems a bit expensive for what it is.

Hip shots are nice but I really like the Gotohs on this one. Super smooth.
 
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Gorgeous bass, nice to see a good review, I was skeptical about this line as on paper it seemed a little superfluous and a mish mash of features at first with all the other options in other lines…but now that I think about it, it makes more sense as an alternative to the AmProII: I know the V-Mod pickup in the AmProII line wouldn’t do it for me (all Alnico 5 or bust for me!), I don’t like string through bridges, I don’t like heel adjustment truss rods… and I can live without a contoured cutaway… yeah, this Am Pro Classic line looks pretty sweet actually! 😁 I am curious about the Coastline pickup, Fender says it’s hot wound, which I don’t usually prefer, as that tends to cause a pickup to lose sweetness of the top end to my ears. But OP’s description of it is pretty encouraging. If only they made a AmPro Classic P bass in Olympic White… 🤪

sorta OCD question, OP did it come with a truss rod tool and is it the same diameter as usual for Fender basses, 3/16”?
Yeah the top end sings for me. I don’t slap a lot anymore but this bass is incredible to slap on. The tone knob gives a ton of control, much more than the typical p bass rolloff.

It comes with the truss rod tool, bridge/tone knob hex and a COA. I am pretty sure it’s the standard diameter.
 
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This is a precision bass so not sure what you mean there. It would be crazy to update the pickup on this before using it for a while. It’s an incredibly good sound. This is what I meant about playing stuff before assuming anything.

Higher quality than a MIM. It’s a USA fender. Feels the same as the pro ii in terms of quality. Better quality than the vintera classic, which doesn’t have a great pickup to my ears and seems a bit expensive for what it is.

Hip shots are nice but I really like the Gotohs on this one. Super smooth.
I didnt mention pickups. Im thinking of the Classic Jazz. I just dont like vol, vol, tone controls on Jazz basses. Ive had good exp with Hipshot tuners. The classics seem to have similarities, Truss Rod adj at the headstock, Skunk stripe.
 
Congrats on your new bass. That green and tort combo looks great to me. Thanks for the comparison versus the pro 2 also. Seems to be enough differences between the two to warrant the new line and the price difference. How is the gig bag? They have about four different options ranging from cheap/basic to pretty nice. Any chance you can post pictures of it?

I'm seriously considering picking up the mustang bass in this series. Sadly it doesn't have the Gotohs like the p and the j.
 
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I love mine, made a few mods already!
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That's a nice mod, if I changed pick guards I'd probably go similar - except mint white. That is a good combo with this color too. Looks a bit like a Moollon P I just sold.
I didnt mention pickups. Im thinking of the Classic Jazz. I just dont like vol, vol, tone controls on Jazz basses. Ive had good exp with Hipshot tuners. The classics seem to have similarities, Truss Rod adj at the headstock, Skunk stripe.

Well back to my original point, you won't know until you play one. It's the same quality as the AM Pro, just a different design and frets. I sat and A/B'd them for a long time and they are both top notch. Both have the rolled edges and the fingerboards are the exact same. I personally don't see the need for a graphite rod in a P bass. The AM Pro is the 63 neck, it is very thick, that thing is going to be straight as an arrow anyway. Same with this one, not as thick, but is plenty sturdy.
Congrats on your new bass. That green and tort combo looks great to me. Thanks for the comparison versus the pro 2 also. Seems to be enough differences between the two to warrant the new line and the price difference. How is the gig bag? They have about four different options ranging from cheap/basic to pretty nice. Any chance you can post pictures of it?

I'm seriously considering picking up the mustang bass in this series. Sadly it doesn't have the Gotohs like the p and the j.

Thanks, yeah its a great color comb. This one and also the Lake Blue/Maple board both were the best looking P Basses in the store to my eyes.

Attached a pic. It's pretty basic. I have a mono and it's much more padded than the Fender. I don't mind though because they put more of the $$$ into the bass. I suspect if they added the hard foam case it would cost more than the American Pro II (which is only $100 more at least where I was).
 

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Hollllyyyyyy that colour! Hello??? I want one of those.
Have to say I just thought I would be buying a nice quality American P in the $1500 range that I’d use when I needed it, but this bass has took hold of me. It’s so resonant and easy to play that I think it’s going to be my main player. It’s addicting to slap on this thing, which is not what I typically do on a p, but it sounds fantastic and basically plays itself.

For reference my last pbass that I just sold was a $4,000 Moollon.