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NBD - Fender American Professional Classic

I thought Ping in Asia made all of fenders upper-range tuners.

Anyway , dont be fooled into thinking that a lower-priced series is inferior. I very much prefer my musicman SUB (made in usa ) than a regular stingray. My favorite bass , a 78 precision , has nothing on my squier Matt freeman. As much as I like my 1972 jazz , my highway one jazz sounds the same using the same pickups.
 
It’s all about the set up and it doesn’t matter what country the headstock has stamped on. A poorly set up American made instrument will feel and play just as bad as an Indonesian made version.
Some basses have different parts and build quality than others, hence they play differently, even set up the same.

What I love is when a lower cost bass plays like one 2x as much. Typically it take getting lucky with an online purchase or going to the store and playing one.

Highway one is a classic example. Those old models had such good resonance. I’ve never had a bass on more records. This new classic pro reminds me of that except better quality build (neck/tuners/ bridge).
 
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I mentioned this in the Pro Classic thread, but I went to the local shop to play some Fender American Pro IIs, because I was pretty certain that is the model Precision I wanted. I decided to buy something locally so I would know if it was a dog or not, and not have to hope to get lucky with an online buy. Also, I have not bought a new bass in many many years, so that was another factor.

On paper the Pro II seemed like what I needed. So I sat down with some and played them - maple neck, rosewood neck, checked tuners, played chords in the high frets to see how the modern cutaway felt...etc. I thought the tone as good, didn't love the higher frets, wasn't as sold as I thought I would be. But I still thought they were quite good. Next to them were the Pro Classics, basses I wrote off because they didn't really make as much sense on paper. But I still figured why not try one. So I did, and I immediately thought that to me, these basses were quite great. I liked the look more, but the neck also felt faster with the medium jumbo frets and modern C shape. The radius is perfect, and upper fret access was no problem. So I didn't really see the benefit of the high cutaway. I have been playing P basses forever, so I may just be used to the necks, but regardless it did not matter. I don't really care about string through body, but I did think the AM Pro II bridge was pretty cool. That said, the tuners on the Pro Classic are super smooth (Gotoh) and I liked them as much if not more than the Pro II. Another thing I never thought much about until I had good ones - the knobs. The knobs on this bass are the best. Super smooth and premium. If you also play synths, you will appreciate this detail. The knobs feel like opening a filter on a quality synth. While the bridge is not high mass, it is a very quality version of the traditional Fender bridge, which has always worked for me.

Tonally, I also preferred the Classic. It's such a good sound - very warm and round but more clarity in the highs. This is where the Classic really separated itself for me. It is just so responsive and sounds fantastic. I owned an American Vintage Original 60's, which is more expensive, but the Classic is much much better - imo. Better tuners, bridge and the pickup has more mojo to it.

I don't mean to trigger anyone because all these Fender basses are awesome. The Am Pro II is great, but the Classic just feels like a classic P bass with modern perks, like a faster neck, much nicer tuners and mine also weighs under 9 pounds. It also lets you adjust the rod at the headstock, which I appreciate. It does not have a bone nut, but I have some of those sitting at the house, so that's an easy upgrade. It also does not come with the hardshell case, but I was trying to get a price on a Pro II without the case because I don't need that anyway. It does come with a gig bag, which is fine, I don't really need it but I couldn't waive it for a discount.

Anyway, I suspect this model may go under the radar and you can already negotiate a brand new one for $1500 or so including tax. They are incredibly good basses and (IMO) much better than the American Vintage, which is rather expensive for what it is. So if you are looking at the different options, make sure and at least play one of these basses before assuming it's nothing special, like I did. It has the most vibe of the 3 for me. And the maple neck version was also sick, I had to go back and forth before I picked this one because they both played great. They also look amazing, which is a nice bonus.
If I may ask : I know the American Pro II has composite reinforcement rods in the neck so do you know if the Classic has the same reinforcement rods or steel reinforcement rods or no rod at all ?
 
If I may ask : I know the American Pro II has composite reinforcement rods in the neck so do you know if the Classic has the same reinforcement rods or steel reinforcement rods or no rod at all ?

It does not and neither of those basses even need them. The American Pro neck is super thick and wide. I had the same neck on my old AVRI63 and it never moved at all. The Classic neck is a similar size and shape to my old Moollons and Nashs and those never moved at all either.

The only time I have seen any benefit from reinforcement rods is with skinny necks like a jazz bass or Lakland.
 
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Angel Crusher- Nice comparison to the Am Pro II! I was never sold on the V-Mod pick-ups myself. I took delivery an American Professional Classic in Lake Placid Blue yesterday. I put DR Fat Beams on it and a Badass II bridge and had about an hour and a half with it this morning. Hard to bass put down! I played along with some tunes and the way that pick-up sits in the mix is just so good! Warm and articulate and it bites when you dig in. I post pics later when I get the pickguard plastic off. I too am very happy with this purchase and as mentioned right at $1500 with tax.

I have a Fender Custom Shop Jazz that I love in Sherwood Green Metallic. Maybe I need the Green P to match it? That one would get flats..
 
Angel Crusher- Nice comparison to the Am Pro II! I was never sold on the V-Mod pick-ups myself. I took delivery an American Professional Classic in Lake Placid Blue yesterday. I put DR Fat Beams on it and a Badass II bridge and had about an hour and a half with it this morning. Hard to bass put down! I played along with some tunes and the way that pick-up sits in the mix is just so good! Warm and articulate and it bites when you dig in. I post pics later when I get the pickguard plastic off. I too am very happy with this purchase and as mentioned right at $1500 with tax.

I have a Fender Custom Shop Jazz that I love in Sherwood Green Metallic. Maybe I need the Green P to match it? That one would get flats..
Nice mods. I thought about putting the badass bridge in but mine is so resonant that I’m afraid to do anything to change it. Haha.

I have not tried fat beams before. I have Pure Blues on mine currently and they sound awesome.

Agree it is very hard to put this bass down. It’s so easy to play and sounds so good.
 
Highway one is a classic example. Those old models had such good resonance. I’ve never had a bass on more records. This new classic pro reminds me of that except better quality build (neck/tuners/ bridge).

At least part of that extra resonance on the Highway One models would have been due to the Nitro finish they had. I have a friend who's selling one atm. Tempting!

Congrats on your purchase AngelCrusher - I'm very tempted at the Sherwood Green American Professional Classic myself. I almost went to Birmingham yesterday to pick one up! - The combination of the warm bottom end and clear top end reminds me of my old American Professional 1 Precision which was always a great combination for me (until I sold it). I hate the more 'nasal' upper mids Precision pickups, so this is the sound I look for.
 
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I’d like to share my experience of buying this bass as well. I’m not a Fender fan, because over the past few years I’ve bought various Fender bass models, and all of them were problematic in one way or another.

My main bass is a Music Man StingRay Special, and I was looking for something with a similar level of playability, but passive and with a rosewood fretboard.

Over the past two years I’ve owned a Fender 60th Anniversary Jazz Bass (USA-made) with terrible access to the truss rod nut, and a Fender American Professional II Precision, where it was very difficult to get an even, balanced tone from the pickup. In general, I also struggled to achieve a consistently low and stable string action. I had the same issue with the Fender Laura Lee Jazz Bass, and on top of that, it was insanely heavy.

To be honest, I ordered this bass mostly because of its looks, and I still had doubts about how it would sound and how comfortable it would be to play.

I can say I was very surprised that in just one evening I was able to set up the strings and adjust the truss rod perfectly (without the nightmare of removing the neck). The pickup output is quite powerful, the strings sound even and consistent with no weak spots, and the weight feels good. I’m planning to play my next few gigs with it.

At this point, this is the best Fender I’ve owned (and I’ve had around ten of their basses). I was worried because this series is considered more entry-level, and I had read on this forum that Fender has had serious quality control issues with the American Professional Mustang Bass. But this bass has pleasantly surprised me — I haven’t been able to put it down for three weeks now.

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Especially in light of another thread. Ive been wondering for a few years now, what, or how much of a difference exists in CNC machines just because of where they are located?. Can we assume that MIM Basses are using the same settings as U.S. made Basses? If so, i have a hard time paying so much more for a US bass. How much different can it be between them? Ok, we get Lollipop tuners, but i can get those, and make all kinds of mods i prefer for less $. Player ll necks even have a plastic protector for truss rod adjustments at the headstock. Just a small detail thing i like. Again, approx. $1500.00 or less than a grand? Help me understand. Btw i used to only buy American, but i have a lot less disposable income now. Probably beating a dead horse here but....
 
Especially in light of another thread. Ive been wondering for a few years now, what, or how much of a difference exists in CNC machines just because of where they are located?. Can we assume that MIM Basses are using the same settings as U.S. made Basses? If so, i have a hard time paying so much more for a US bass. How much different can it be between them? Ok, we get Lollipop tuners, but i can get those, and make all kinds of mods i prefer for less $. Player ll necks even have a plastic protector for truss rod adjustments at the headstock. Just a small detail thing i like. Again, approx. $1500.00 or less than a grand? Help me understand. Btw i used to only buy American, but i have a lot less disposable income now. Probably beating a dead horse here but....
Mexican is fine. Just lower qc (mis drilled holes under the pickguard and neck pocket are common on the ones i had).

Its all about quality. Some people will rave about their MIM and tell you its better than any USA made, and then you pick it up and play it and dont feel the same way. Just matters how sensitive you are to that stuff. Always buy one that you can pick up and play. Dont buy online.

I should add that i played the MIM models along side this one and the pro IIs and i much preferred this model. I have no problem playing a mexican and saving some money, but the bass i chose had the mojo.
 
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It does not and neither of those basses even need them. The American Pro neck is super thick and wide. I had the same neck on my old AVRI63 and it never moved at all. The Classic neck is a similar size and shape to my old Moollons and Nashs and those never moved at all either.

The only time I have seen any benefit from reinforcement rods is with skinny necks like a jazz bass or Lakland.
The American Pro II neck is 1.625” wide just like this one, just like a Player II, just like an American Standard, just like ever non-vintage spec Precision bass made by Fender since sometime in the 1970s. It is not “super wide” and is not the same neck as your AVRI63. What is ‘63 about it is the profile of the neck, the shape of the back.
 
I’d like to share my experience of buying this bass as well. I’m not a Fender fan, because over the past few years I’ve bought various Fender bass models, and all of them were problematic in one way or another.

My main bass is a Music Man StingRay Special, and I was looking for something with a similar level of playability, but passive and with a rosewood fretboard.

Over the past two years I’ve owned a Fender 60th Anniversary Jazz Bass (USA-made) with terrible access to the truss rod nut, and a Fender American Professional II Precision, where it was very difficult to get an even, balanced tone from the pickup. In general, I also struggled to achieve a consistently low and stable string action. I had the same issue with the Fender Laura Lee Jazz Bass, and on top of that, it was insanely heavy.

To be honest, I ordered this bass mostly because of its looks, and I still had doubts about how it would sound and how comfortable it would be to play.

I can say I was very surprised that in just one evening I was able to set up the strings and adjust the truss rod perfectly (without the nightmare of removing the neck). The pickup output is quite powerful, the strings sound even and consistent with no weak spots, and the weight feels good. I’m planning to play my next few gigs with it.

At this point, this is the best Fender I’ve owned (and I’ve had around ten of their basses). I was worried because this series is considered more entry-level, and I had read on this forum that Fender has had serious quality control issues with the American Professional Mustang Bass. But this bass has pleasantly surprised me — I haven’t been able to put it down for three weeks now.

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That’s great. Glad you like it!
Doesnt play or feel entry level to me, really, even though i get what you mean - its the least expensive American made fender pbass. But if someone wants a high quality P bass it’s got everything you need - fantastic pickup, classic components and good woods.

I suspect this model will be looked back upon as a quality fender release.
 
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That’s great. Glad you like it!
Doesnt play or feel entry level to me, really, even though i get what you mean - its the least expensive American made fender pbass. But if someone wants a high quality P bass it’s got everything you need - fantastic pickup, classic components and good woods.

I suspect this model will be looked back upon as a quality fender release.

Yes, I meant that it's like an 'entry level' American bass (something like H1 or AmSpecial or AmPerformer), and I agree it feels really different to them (from my experience), and that's what I wrote about - this was a surprise to me - I don't feel any compromises or tradeoffs with this Precision Bass (hah, and I don't want even change anything in it, it works just fine)
 
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Late to this thread obv, but I just picked up the exact same bass as OP (American Classic in Sherwood Green) and hopped on here to see if anyone was talking about it. I've got a pretty sweet collection of vintage Fender basses and have played more P basses than I can count- I definitely don't need any more basses haha- but I happened to see this green one and couldn't take my mind off how good it looked, so I found one in a local shop and went to give it a look in person fully expecting to ultimately not be interested, because how could a new P bass compete with my '72, '73, and '75? Well, this thing turned out to be shockingly excellent- the sound, craftsmanship, build quality, hardware, pickups, weight, everything...was impossible not to walk out with it. It's built basically to the exact specs of a classic (hence the name I suppose haha) P bass but with a modern C shaped, satin finished neck (which I THOUGHT I wouldn't like, but the playability was undeniable). Anyway, if you're in the market for a vintage P bass but don't want to pay the vintage prices, you probably won't be disappointed with one of these bad boys.
 

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