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NBD - G4M Fanned Fret 5 String

Awesome post! I wonder. I wanna add 6s to my arsenal for fooling around. Got gorgeous Ibanez BTB805ms with practically perfect, to me, slim and flat neck (cant be compared to old chunky BTBs) and thought about 6s of course the price, both new or 2nd hand. Still much more money than this. Perfect instrument tho...

I wonder, is anyone here who had both G4m and Redsub and did good comparision various stuff wise (electronics, pots, wood, worksmanship, frets, sound of pups) Asked G4m about difference and was written there are upgrades in materials (hard to believe if I read here the stuff about the "paper screws"). Thanks guys.
 
I never had the Redsub but I think the G4M has the same electrics in as the Redsub. The G4M has 7 neck bolts compared to the Redsub's 5. Low End Lobster reviewed one and wasn't impressed with the 7 bolts shown on the G4M website (although they did get the 5 bolt version which may have been an earlier version) and they were happy with that one. To me I see no difference.
When I had the bass before I modded it, I can't say there was anything wrong with the stock pots. caps, preamp or pickups. I just wanted to move the neck pickup and saw the opportunity to go with a Glockenkland 3 band just as an experiment, I liked it, but that may had had something to do with the neck pickup being re-positioned as well. The pickups are decent and I've not bothered changing them but they are a standard ~ 40mm x 102mm size so there are absolutely hundreds out there to choose from.
My only real concern was the quality of the basswood body which was featherlight and had loose grain and some splits in it when it has it's finish taken off, maybe mine was just a bad example but with some filling and sanding it came up sort of OK for it's paint job.
As I've said many times though the neck is the real star whether you end up with the Redsub or the G4M.
Hope this helps.
 
I never had the Redsub but I think the G4M has the same electrics in as the Redsub. The G4M has 7 neck bolts compared to the Redsub's 5. Low End Lobster reviewed one and wasn't impressed with the 7 bolts shown on the G4M website (although they did get the 5 bolt version which may have been an earlier version) and they were happy with that one. To me I see no difference.
When I had the bass before I modded it, I can't say there was anything wrong with the stock pots. caps, preamp or pickups. I just wanted to move the neck pickup and saw the opportunity to go with a Glockenkland 3 band just as an experiment, I liked it, but that may had had something to do with the neck pickup being re-positioned as well. The pickups are decent and I've not bothered changing them but they are a standard ~ 40mm x 102mm size so there are absolutely hundreds out there to choose from.
My only real concern was the quality of the basswood body which was featherlight and had loose grain and some splits in it when it has it's finish taken off, maybe mine was just a bad example but with some filling and sanding it came up sort of OK for it's paint job.
As I've said many times though the neck is the real star whether you end up with the Redsub or the G4M.
Hope this helps.

Hi, thank you, received your mail before I went to check the bass. Reading it post after. In the end, I could get the bass for 280€. Its the original Redsub, tho with 7 bolt - interesting concept! New, under G4m, could be bought for 330. I kinda liked the bass, no sharp frets, decent action (I started like low+mid for no buzz if possible). Seems it has issue with pot caps being tightened to a body. It was quite ergonomical, I love the ping/broun finish. there were two no no to me tho... The neck itself. It was surely better than old BTBs, relatively slim, but not slim and NOT flat (D profile) as I would prefer like on my BTB805MS. Not bad at all, but also not ideal to me. Besides profile, the second thing I hated was the feel where thumb is, kinda sticky. Not sure if it would need some finer or opposite grain of abrassive paper. Maybe would need laquer, cuz seems the wood has nothing, or mayby some sealer only? No sure - this was maybe the biggest deal breaker to me. The tuners were abyssmal for sure, same as the old strings which could transform feel a bit as well, frets were green tho with low amount of use, no sharp frets. Bass could be about 4,5-5kg heavy, which i expected and was no problem. Bridge felt little cheap, but worked. Concept good for fast string change compared to stuff like Fender.

So, in the end, I skipped the deal. I liked the bass overall, but the feel of the neck made me to refuse the offer, Some afterwork could be done probably to make it better feel wise, tho. I will try to get 6s version of my Ibanez first for cheap "relatively" and will see. Even if it will be like 3x of the Sub/G4m. Here I did not felt the need to play it when I see it. With my Ibby, I go around and must play a bit. Maybe I ll pul the trigger later anyways and buy Redsub/G4m from the dude or new one.

Good thing is, it was compatible with Thunderbird soft padded case from Thomann, so gigbag would not be issue as well.
 
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I was never a fan of the body style on either of these basses or even the new HB multiscale but I bought it for value for money as the next cheapest - the Ibanez IIRC was in the £600 range. I bought it purely to experience a fanned fret bass. I do like it, but having never owned another with a 'C' profile neck I have nothing to compare it with. IMHO I do love the neck and it has a 36.5" low B and that B sounds lovely.
 
Its funny, i liked scale lenght of Redsub (36,25" i think) a lot. Not a problem to stretch fingers in first four frets compared to 37" Btb, but not feeling like a toy/guitar when one gets hands immediatelly on ordinary 34 or shorscale even. Tho i think i have this lenght issue with 5s and not 4.

You are right, hard to beat the price of Redsub for sure. Stellar ratio.
 
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I have to say, this has got to be the most eloquent OP I've ever read. Being from the states, I appreciate it amongst dealing with the slack-jawed locals every day. That being said, your review is extremely informative too, and I thank you for it. I feel this will be worth the additional shipping in the near future.
 
I have to say, this has got to be the most eloquent OP I've ever read. Being from the states, I appreciate it amongst dealing with the slack-jawed locals every day. That being said, your review is extremely informative too, and I thank you for it. I feel this will be worth the additional shipping in the near future.
Thank you for your reply, that's very kind of you. I was really interested in multiscales but cost was prohibitive (for me) and at the time this was the only affordable fanned fret. Harley Benton made one before in the 2017-2018's but had deleted then from their catalog when I started looking. It's funny you've bought it up it's sitting right next to me now as I've been playing it earlier.:), I really love the neck on this guitar. What I found out when I took the burl off it was the wood underneath wasn't all that and quite soft and spongy in parts and a lot of people are put off with basswood (basewood as I call it:laugh:) but don't be one of the herd, basswood is a really nice tonewood, ask Fender who sold me their MIJ Midnight Black P bass for almost 10x the price I paid for this, and that is beautiful in it's own right.
What I like most about it is the low B at 36.25" scale it really sings. The rest of the strings sound beautiful too.
There now is another contender - you've guessed it Harley Benton are back on the scene, you probably know already.
It's got a 35" scale at the B string so not the same length of the G4M,I don't know how it sounds but folks on here that have bought them reckon they're really nice, and the neck pickup seems to be in a better position than the G4M - which I think is more metal or thrash.
But I just still love the G4M despite it's shortfalls, you wouldn't be able to buy a neck like that for less than £400, still can't believe how good it is for a budget instrument. :thumbsup:
 
I like the body shape. What a WILD neck joint! I'd be afraid that the neck would risk a split with that lineup of bolts.
Mostly I'm here to appreciate the angle of the upper bout where the body meets the low B. The way it aligns with the angle of the fret is great, and your leaning first photo accentuates this quality.

Happy NBD and congratulations
 
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I like the body shape. What a WILD neck joint! I'd be afraid that the neck would risk a split with that lineup of bolts.
Mostly I'm here to appreciate the angle of the upper bout where the body meets the low B. The way it aligns with the angle of the fret is great, and your leaning first photo accentuates this quality.

Happy NBD and congratulations
Lobster did a review on YT a few years ago on the G4M, thought they were getting the 7 bolt but when it turned up they got the 5 bolt, which they were greatly relieved about. Mine's been through the mill a bit but I would not like to take it on the golf course :laugh: It's still being good to me tho. Thanks and take care bro.
 
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