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NBD: Gibson SG What the ????

aproud1

Don't surround yourself with yourself.
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Aug 13, 2007
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Let me start by saying I have strongly disliked almost every Gibson bass I've played. I think they are pretty but do not care for how they feel or play. I liked a G3 (I think thats the model) I played at a GTG but that has really been it. I'm more of a Jazz bass guy but every jazz bass... well thats another story.

So I have been struggling to find the perfect sound for my main band I play with. Mostly Dylan, The Band and some other stuff. I love my Clements and they sound great but I needed a different sound to sit in right with this band. I've tried many, many different basses and nothing seemed to work. Until now.

Popped into guitar center to kill some time before a meeting several weeks ago. Wanted to check out some new basses and I knew they had an Orange AD200B. Played several different basses saw a few Gibsons (which they usually don't have) played two. Had that familiar, feels like I'm playing a kitchen table kind of feel. Then a pretty little SG caught my eye. "Thats cute" I thought to myself. This I guess was the SG re-issue. Plugged it in and was simply blown away. There was this sound I've been looking for. Not better than my other basses but this sound I felt like I've been looking for. Just for this band. :help: Loved the sound and generally the feel of the bass but it was a little worn out from being a demo and I didn't care the the gloss finish on the back of the neck. This was a bass I loved to play and it sounded different but great.

Had to go to my meeting so I tried to put this experience out of my head. Plus I couldn't scrounge up the $1400 for that bass anyway. Of course I ended up in a hotel room full of gas and an internet connection So I started doing some research. I found that the SG bass (which never existed until recently) has a worn finish sibling that is the identical bass but with a satin finish, no fancy inlays and a slightly different nut. Everything else is the same and it even comes shipped in the same plush case. The catch is it's $600 less. Now the gloss finish is very nice, but I prefer the feel of the satin finish anyway. And this.. I could almost afford.

Well after agonizing for a whole 18 -22 hours I called my friends at Sweetwater and ordered myself one. Took a whole day to get here too! Get the bass, open it up, setup great out of the box and there was that sound. Noticed it was a bit neck heavy and had some Gotoh Res-O-Lite tuners that just happened to fit the headstock and use the existing screw holes so I swapped those out. Had it back together 5 minutes into band practice. Guys in the band were very, very, very skeptical. That is until they listened back to the recordings of our practice.

An a side note, the finish in the Sweetwater pics made the bass look really bright but I was assured by Sweetwater that is was much more mellow than their pics. It is. My first pics outside made it look real bright too but I think I got a more accurate representation indoors.

So Pros/cons

Pros:
  • Easy to play
  • Great fit and finish
  • wonderful sound but can still get that wooly old sound if you like
  • sits in a mix well
  • light
  • nice case

Cons:
  • Neck heavy
  • bridge while it works is not great or easy to adjust and is somewhat limiting
  • E sting was weak when I received (neck pickup)
  • probably will have fret spout this winter (I can just tell)

So the tuners fixed the neck heavy deal, I changed the bridge to a Hipshot Supertone ( a beautiful chunk 'o' metal) which allowed me to really dial it in, adjusted the pickup and now have a nice even sound. Really out of the box this bass was better than the majority of basses I have received. The fit and finish are truly excellent, the nut was cut perfectly and the fretwork, while I can tell it will sprout a bit, is better than most basses too. perfectly level and allows for a very easy playing setup. It really is quite impressive especially for the price. This is also the first short scale I've really like too. Of course I am a pretty big guy and this will look like a novelty bass strapped on but oh well.;)

If you are looking for an easy playing, great sounding short scale bass these are a great deal IMO.

Some proof...

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Here is one outside where the color is wrong. Pics above more accurately represent the color.


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I have the worn brown but I didn't encounter any of the problems you mentioned. I was able to adjust the bridge to get the action to my liking. The only negative for me is that you have to get strings with no silks at the ball ends which limits your options, but otherwise its fantastic.
Also, ghs precision flats are great on this.
 
I have the worn brown but I didn't encounter any of the problems you mentioned. I was able to adjust the bridge to get the action to my liking. The only negative is that you have to get strings with no silks at the ball ends which limits your options, but otherwise its fantastic.
Also, ghs precision flats are great on this.

I could get an action I liked but I like being able to individually adjust string height. Bass was 100% functional and played great when I got it. Neck dive was there but not catastrophic. Didn't mean for it to sound that way.

I'm considering trying some flats but really like the sound with roundwounds.

Oh, and Gorn. Great episode.
 
I had sunbeams on for a little while but it was too much growl and not enough thump. The ghs are thumpy but still really well defined. I do use a thick strap so that helps with neck dive, which like you said isn't terrible anyway. And the satin finish is great. I'd choose this over the $1400 glossy one regardless of price.
Six hundred bucks isn't worth a different nut, finish, and extra little decal on the headstock.
 
Thanks for the review, I've been scoping these out (mostly because back when I wanted to be a guitard an SG was my dream guitar). Glad to see if I ever purchased one it would be functional as well as awesome looking.

And IMO the satin looks better than the gloss; good choice.
 
Congrats. Beautiful bass.

I got mine a couple of weeks ago and love it! Such a great instrument and really good value for money with the hard case included!

Mine has a super red rosewood board which I love, I was curious if this is normal or just a one-off piece of rosewood! How is yours?
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That is really red. My 2012 sg is apparently baked maple rather than rosewood. I thought all the new ones were?

Mine looks like pretty regular Rosewood. That is something that I am confused by though... Gibson calls it baked maple and Rosewood in the same paragraph on their site. I tried looking into it but my brain came close to expolding.

This is from Gibson's site"

20-Fret Baked Maple Fingerboard
The fingerboard on the Gibson SG Standard Bass is constructed from baked maple. The North American rosewood is personally inspected and qualified by Gibson's team of skilled wood experts before it enters the factories to be fitted onto the neck of the SG Standard Bass. Baked maple characteristics include good sustain with plenty of bite.
 
I'm confused by these statements in the original post:

"So I have been struggling to find the perfect sound for my main band I play with. Mostly Dylan, The Band..."
"Guys in the band were very, very, very skeptical."

Rick Danko, bass player for The Band and occasionally Dylan, is well-known for playing Gibson(and yes, Ampeg) basses so why would they be "very, very, very skeptical" when you brought in a Gibson bass to play Dylan/The Band?
 
LOL. Considering how much Gibson's run-ins with the Feds over wood from India has been in the news lately, that's a joke right?

I kind of wondered if Baked Maple is just a Gibson name for rosewood.

I'm confused by these statements in the original post:

"So I have been struggling to find the perfect sound for my main band I play with. Mostly Dylan, The Band..."
"Guys in the band were very, very, very skeptical."

Rick Danko, bass player for The Band and occasionally Dylan, is well-known for playing Gibson(and yes, Ampeg) basses so why would they be "very, very, very skeptical" when you brought in a Gibson bass to play Dylan/The Band?


Wasn't because of Danko, I know he played a G3 and I've seen him play fretless. It was because it's so different from the basses they are used to seeing me play. That and they know I was not a fan of Gibson basses.

I was not familiar with the majority of the music we play, so I never knew about Danko until I check out some videos online. Great player!
 
I kind of wondered if Baked Maple is just a Gibson name for rosewood.




Wasn't because of Danko, I know he played a G3 and I've seen him play fretless. It was because it's so different from the basses they are used to seeing me play. That and they know I was not a fan of Gibson basses.

I was not familiar with the majority of the music we play, so I never knew about Danko until I check out some videos online. Great player!

Actually, Danko played Gibson Rippers.