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NBD - Single Cut!

The Brubaker Brute series gets a lot of positive comments here on TB. I had a chance to play a used Brute at a Guitar Center while back. Even though I didn’t spend a lot of time with it, it made a positive impression. So, I took the plunge and picked up a new Brute Single Cut 5-string.

My Brute is a natural ash finish, and it is a beautiful piece of ash. The top is about ½ inch thick and is made of three pieces. The sections are joined right under the B and G strings, which really helps to hide any mismatched grain. Even without that, though, the differences in grain are really only obvious from the end of the bass. The back is made of two pieces joined near the center. The control plate is wooden – something you just don’t see in basses at this price range. My only minor visual gripe is the cheap-looking push-on chrome knobs, and that is easy to fix. (Ash knobs from Ebay fixed this problem for me.)

Fit and finish is good, but not perfect. There are a couple spots where the fingerboard meets the neck where there are holes that weren’t filled, resulting in very small dimples in the finish. Also, the route for the control plate on the rear isn’t perfect and has one minor notch in it. There is also a small, discolored spot on the front edge of the bridge. All of these issues don’t add up to much, though; this is a well-executed instrument.

The neck is clearly the result of some thought and planning. It actually inserts into a slot in the body and extends well into the body of the bass. Two of the neck bolts actually extend past the neck pickup! The fingerboard has a compound radius, and the back of the neck is finished in a matte black. The end result is a very comfortable, and very fast-playing, bass. Because of the single cut, the shape of the neck above the 13th fret is a little different than normal, but it is very comfortable. The black neck really makes a striking contrast to the natural ash body.

The bass has a small headstock and the front strap pin is just past the 13th fret. This helps the bass balance well on a strap. Not only is it completely neck-dive free, it will sit at any angle you put it when on a strap.

The bass sounds VERY good. I did not like the factory strings at all, and almost immediately put a set of fat beams on it. The active electronics are very open and bright. I was a little concerned about having only a bass and treble control (I generally like thick mids and passive tone), but it isn’t a problem here. The MM bridge pickup has plenty of mids – so much that I find myself boosting bass a bit to tame the mids in some situations. Blending toward the jazz neck pickup gives a nice, smooth, slightly mid-scooped modern tone.

My Brute Single Cut isn’t perfect, though. This bass has several issues, though, and some I consider fairly serious.

First, when I unboxed the bass and plugged it in, the bass was DOA. Not worried, I replaced the battery (noting the potential for contact-point problems in the battery box) and tried again. Still DOA. I removed the screws from the control plate on the back to investigate, and before I could figure out how to get the tight-fitting plate off without damaging it, the bass came to life. For now, I have left well-enough alone, but the initial lack-of-sound is disconcerting.

Second, this bass is heavy. The body is the thickest I have seen on any solid body bass, and the single cut automatically means a more massive body. I don’t have a scale to get an exact weight, but my bathroom scale let me estimate it at about twelve pounds. I own over two dozen basses and only my T-40 is heavier. This isn’t a deal breaker for me (it would be for some), but it does mean a comfortable strap and strap locks are a requirement. I quickly upgraded the strap pins to Loxx strap locks and am using a Neotech Mega Bass strap. Even so, a four set club gig might be tough with this one.

Third, the bridge is not ideal. This is the same bridge that is on my Carvin SB5000 and it is also used on the new Reverends. Overall, it is an excellent bridge, but it has a design flaw. It really works best with taperwound strings. Even though it is a top-load design, it is very difficult to fit a large B string. A .130 is about the maximum that can be used. Also, strangely, the lock screws for the saddles have been removed, although I consider that an improvement rather than a problem.

Next on my list, and (like my complaint about the bridge) a bit of a nit-pick, is the truss rod access at the neck. It is a shallow semicircle. While this works aesthetically with the bass, a standard allen wriench is a tight fit and could easily dent the edges of the rout. A more traditional truss rod rout would be an improvement.

A more serious issue is something that I was genuinely surprised by. Given the discussions on TB of the amount of attention given these basses once they reach the US, I would expect “excellent” fret work. Instead, my bass has “good” fret work. Even after a quick setup, the D and G strings are a little buzzy around the 4th and 5th frets. The A string completely frets out at the 13th fret, as the 14th fret is a bit high. I should point out that I have this bass set up with medium low action. I will live with these fret problems for now, but for this to be a regular player, it is going to need some bench time.

The most serious issue, though, is with the B string. Given the neck joint, I expected great things. However, it is simply not as loud as the other strings. This problem is minimized at some EQ settings, but the issue is always there. Acoustically, I did not hear a problem, so I set out to find the issue. I adjusted the pickup height which helped a little, but didn’t fix it. I changed strings, and that did not fix it either. With the neck pickup soloed, the B string is even and consistent with the other strings. With the bridge humbucker soloed, there is a minor drop in volume on the B string. It isn’t serious, but it was noticeable at band rehearsal. When I switch to single coil on the bridge pickup, the B string disappears. The volume difference is dramatic. So, I tapped the pickup with a screw driver. I get nice, loud taps under the E, A, D, and G strings, but almost nothing under the B string on the bridge coil side. The thought crossed my mind that this might be a four string (possibly blade) pickup in a five string pickup shell. When I pulled the pickup (it is sealed) and looked at the magnets, the magnet stops just shy of the B string. So, I replaced the bridge pickup with a Nordstrand MM5.4. When I did so, two things became apparent. One, Nordstrand really makes some great sounding pickups. Two, with the pick properly covering the B string, I got the great-sounding B string that I expected. After gigging the bass, I will say that the B string is as solid as any 34” or 35” bass, and probably punchier than most. The Nordstrand is a bit more open and even - slightly less mid-punchy than the Brute pickup. I believe the original Brute MM was wired in series, and I installed the Nordstrand in parallel. I will say, this bass KILLS tone-wise with the Nordie.

My overall conclusion is that I like this bass a lot. Given the weight, the fret problems, and the pickup issue with the B string, a lot of people would have packed it up and shipped it back, but it is a “keeper” for me. I own about 28 basses and have been playing for over 30 years, so I feel I have enough experience to fairly quickly identify whether a bass is going to be usable to me. This one will get some stage time, but I have to admit, I am disappointed that my $300 Sub Ray5 outperforms this bass (out of the box) in terms of fret work and evenness of string volume. (To be fair, the Ray5 had a ridiculous amount of fret sprout that had to be dealt with.) On the other hand, since I replaced the bridge pickup, once I deal with the fret issues, this bass will stand in good company with my Carvin SB5000 as a top-notch five string bass.

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I think that it's a bummer that the bass didn't work right out of the box and that there are some quality issues.
I would be concerned that just as magically as the bass started working, it could just as easily quit again.
For a bass in that price range, I would have expected a little more QC.

(it looks kinda neat though)
 
I like these basses. I just wish they had a more neutral looking headstock.
Is that a 6 piece body, though? It looks like 3 top pieces sandwiched on 3 bottom pieces that don't line up.

It is five pieces - three on top and two on the back. The bottom two pieces match almost perfectly from the top, and the third isn't quite as good, but still matches quite well. The two on the back are matched very well. I showed some shots of the end, because that is really where you can see the different pieces. I would say that they focused more on the top and back than the ends, and matching grain in three dimensions would be all but impossible.

Thank you very much for your honest and good review of the Single Cut Brute. Nice to hear what others are thinking about it.

If I wasn't clear enough, I do really like it. It wasn't perfect right out of the gate, but the potential was there. Once I got the right pickup in it, the B is tremendous! I think it may be #2 in terms of B strings behind my Dingwall. I usually go for a more vintage tone, but I am digging the bright, agressive tones I am getting with this thing. I think this bass was well worth what I paid for it.

I think that it's a bummer that the bass didn't work right out of the box and that there are some quality issues.
I would be concerned that just as magically as the bass started working, it could just as easily quit again.
For a bass in that price range, I would have expected a little more QC.

(it looks kind neat though)

I hesitated to post anything less than glowing about a bass from such a small company. I am quite sure that it left the shop in good working order. I suspect the initial DOA issue is related to the battery box, which is similar to the one in my Carvin. The Carvin battery boxes have caused problems for a few people, too.
 
I'm glad that you are going to be happy with your purchase when to finally get it fixed.
It just seems to me that you already did quite a bit to it to make your brand new (not exactly cheap) bass even serviceable.
From your original post I got:

.Cheap looking knobs were replaced
.Woodwork sub par (holes filled badly and routing bodged)
.Bad plating on bridge
.Strings needed replaced
.Battery needed replaced
.Battery box malfunctioning
.Strap pins replaced with locks
.Design flaw on bridge (can't hold a big B string)
.Truss rod access inadequate
.Sub par fret work (buzzy D and G string) high 14th. fret.
.... and a biggie
.Pickup needed replaced


"I am disappointed that my $300 Sub Ray5 outperforms this bass."

Like I said earlier, I'm glad that you are happy with it, but for that kind of money....I'm not so sure that I would be.
 
I'm glad that you are going to be happy with your purchase when to finally get it fixed.
It just seems to me that you already did quite a bit to it to make your brand new (not exactly cheap) bass even serviceable.
From your original post I got:

.Cheap looking knobs were replaced
.Woodwork sub par (holes filled badly and routing bodged)
.Bad plating on bridge
.Strings needed replaced
.Battery needed replaced
.Battery box malfunctioning
.Strap pins replaced with locks
.Design flaw on bridge (can't hold a big B string)
.Truss rod access inadequate
.Sub par fret work (buzzy D and G string) high 14th. fret.
.... and a biggie
.Pickup needed replaced


"I am disappointed that my $300 Sub Ray5 outperforms this bass."

Like I said earlier, I'm glad that you are happy with it, but for that kind of money....I'm not so sure that I would be.

You should have quoted my whole statement. You are pulling it out of context, but you make your point. However:

* I didn't like the knobs, but there was nothing wrong with them.
* There is no subpar woodworking here. Fit and finish isn't absolutely perfect, but it isn't fair to call it subpar.
* I have not tried to clean the bridge, but the blemish is tiny. I had a Skyline with worse plating flaws on the bridge.
* Strings needing replaced was a preference. I mainly did that to track down the B string and fret problems. I have a plekked Skyline (a different one) that had a bad fret that turned out to be a string defect.
* The battery was fine. I replaced it when tracking down the DOA issue.
* I'm not sure if the battery box was the issue, but I think so. Carvin uses a similar box, and their basses are cosiderably more expensive.
* I ALWAYS install strap locks. This bass came with oversized pins, which would probably be adequate.
* I'm not a fan of this bridge, but it is solid and well made. I think I have read that Warwicks have issues fitting larger strings too, but I could be wrong.
* The dead note on the 13th fret of the A string is a bummer. I'll either get it fixed or work up the nerve to tackle it myself.
* The pickup was a legitimate issue. If I had asked, I'm sure the Brubaker folks would have made it right. I was able to adjust its height and angle to make it passable, but I knew this bass was capable of more.
* You should have tried to play my Ray5 before I filed the fret ends. Couple that with that horrible looking Ray5 bridge, and you'd have called that bass junk, and it would have been a fair statement. I did a pretty good job on the neck with a colored pencil where I was a little sloppy with the file!
 
Fair enough wv.
I was just pulling out some bullet points from your first post.
I didn't intend to quote anything out of context.

I deal with a lot of motorcycles and motorcyclists. The review of your Brubaker has a lot of similarities to what I often hear Harley owners say about their bikes.
"I spent a lot of money on this new bike just to have to turn around and replace the exhaust system, the camshafts, the ignition module and the air cleaner. but now It's OK."
I am usually exasperated by those comments too.

Personally, I prefer to buy something that doesn't need to be reworked to work. Especially if I am paying a premium for it.
 
I hear you. Two schools of thought, I guess. Do you buy only if everything is "just so," or do you see potential and help bring those qualities to light?

You also have to understand my luck with purchases like this. My Dingwall went back to Canada for an almost unheard of warranty repair. My new Genz Benz kept going through tubes until I got it serviced. I have been through two or three sets of knobs on my RH750, and they need replaced again. So, I have learned not to run away at the first sign of adversity. Or the second, for that matter.

I've tweaked the setup a little bit, and my only remaining issue of any import is that one dead note. Once I address that, I should have a pretty nice Harley. :)
 
Hey WV Bass I'd say you're honest to the point of being Brutal!!!! Howz that for a PUN!!!!! What's up Dude? Didn't you get a copy of my slap bass clinic DVD? No need to review here LOL!!!!!!
 
Hey WV Bass I'd say you're honest to the point of being Brutal!!!! Howz that for a PUN!!!!! What's up Dude? Didn't you get a copy of my slap bass clinic DVD? No need to review here LOL!!!!!!

I really don't think I was brutal. I own enough basses that there is no honeymoon period anymore. Issues get identified and addressed. That way, I can dig in and learn the instrument. Flaws and problems are easy to find. Finding what makes an instrument unique and special takes a lot more effort. My gig schedule is very light for therest of the year, but let me get a few shows under my belt and I will tell you what I really think.
 
I did not contact my dealer. Maybe it didn't come through well enough - I like this bass. It just needs polished until it shines. I like the concept, and I like the execution. I won't say it was perfectly executed; I would expect that to cost more.

As I said about the cosmetic issues, they really don't add up to much. Everybody here throws around the word "flawless" when they get a new bass. I buy the same basses, and just don't see flawless. Any cosmetic flaws I mentioned in my first post, as I said at the time, are inconsequential. (I will say my Dingwall is probably as close to flawless as is possible, though.)

So far as the pickup goes, I wasn't going to cry to the dealer or manufacturer about something that I probably would have done eventually anyway. I did contact Tom about pickup options, but I had the pickup bought and installed before I really gave him time to respond.

I do wish I was a little more experience with fret files. As it is, there's a couple guys not too far away in Athens, Ohio that do good work. Heck, I even play shows in the Baltimore area every now and then (I also travel to the Baltimore/DC area for work from time to time), so I've got options.

Right now, I have my other 27 basses put away so that I can focus on this one. Some time to bond with it, I guess.
 
I really don't think I was brutal. I own enough basses that there is no honeymoon period anymore. Issues get identified and addressed. That way, I can dig in and learn the instrument. Flaws and problems are easy to find. Finding what makes an instrument unique and special takes a lot more effort. My gig schedule is very light for therest of the year, but let me get a few shows under my belt and I will tell you what I really think.

I'm not trying to start anything and I always appreciate honesty over B.S anyday. However as paraphrased by another TBer your comments included:

Cheap looking knobs were replaced
.Woodwork sub par (holes filled badly and routing bodged)
.Bad plating on bridge
.Strings needed replaced
.Battery needed replaced
.Battery box malfunctioning
.Strap pins replaced with locks
.Design flaw on bridge (can't hold a big B string)
.Truss rod access inadequate
.Sub par fret work (buzzy D and G string) high 14th. fret.
.... and a biggie
.Pickup needed replaced

"I am disappointed that my $300 Sub Ray5 outperforms this bass."

That is all.
 
Hey Everyone, WV is fine with us. Remember, while we are always trying to make that "flawless" bass, as he said, there is a cost involved. We try to give you the most bass you can get at this price point, including the features you don't get otherwise, like bone nuts, ash bodies, compound radius fingerboards, yada yada. We know and understand he likes the bass, and we are using his comments and others here to improve our final QC process as well as improve our manufacturing inspections.

As for changing factory strings, or replacing a battery, or replacing strap buttons, those are things I change with every bass I own when I buy it. That is not a quality dig at all.

WV, thanks again. I hope you will always be a member of the Brubaker Brute family.
 
I did not contact my dealer. Maybe it didn't come through well enough - I like this bass. It just needs polished until it shines. I like the concept, and I like the execution. I won't say it was perfectly executed; I would expect that to cost more.

As I said about the cosmetic issues, they really don't add up to much. Everybody here throws around the word "flawless" when they get a new bass. I buy the same basses, and just don't see flawless. Any cosmetic flaws I mentioned in my first post, as I said at the time, are inconsequential. (I will say my Dingwall is probably as close to flawless as is possible, though.)

So far as the pickup goes, I wasn't going to cry to the dealer or manufacturer about something that I probably would have done eventually anyway. I did contact Tom about pickup options, but I had the pickup bought and installed before I really gave him time to respond.

I do wish I was a little more experience with fret files. As it is, there's a couple guys not too far away in Athens, Ohio that do good work. Heck, I even play shows in the Baltimore area every now and then (I also travel to the Baltimore/DC area for work from time to time), so I've got options.

Right now, I have my other 27 basses put away so that I can focus on this one. Some time to bond with it, I guess.

Actually you made it very clear that you like the bass and unfortunately it had some issues. I was just wondering if wherever you got it from was made aware of the issues... that's how the process improves. Again, greatly appreciated.
 
I originally ordered this bass on ebay through a company called grand central music. However, it took them from the month of april from the time I ordered it, to the month of September to finally tell me they didn't know when they would be in stock, and give me a refund. Smh Bad business. I know this is no reflection on Brubaker guitars, but I don't believe people should sell items they don't have in stock. I ended up buying an mtd ZX 5. Very nice sounding bass. I still hope to get my hands on one of these brubakers in the future, but i'll wait until they change that mm jazz pickup setup to soapbars. They may have a buyer then. I looked for clips on youtube but i'm sure they don't do it justice.