NCAA Football 2022

[FilterFunk]

Biletnikoff winner Jordan Addison transfers to USC:
Pittsburgh star WR Addison transferring to USC

I'm cautiously optimistic about my Trojans, but I remember the embarrassment of riches that included the Reggie Bush scandal, so I'm hoping everything is legal. It's becoming harder to know what is or isn't an NCAA violation, though, with the transfer portal and NIL.

 

[MJ5150]

I'm not liking this news one bit.
Sources: USC, UCLA planning move to Big Ten.
It may be soon enough that I don't like NCAA football anymore either. Well, at least I still have Dartmouth and the Ivy League.

-Mike

 

[SoonerBill]

I'm not liking this news one bit.
Sources: USC, UCLA planning move to Big Ten.
It may be soon enough that I don't like NCAA football anymore either. Well, at least I still have Dartmouth and the Ivy League.

-Mike

Wow! A few legitimate OU news insiders reported that Lincoln Riley decided to leave OU at least somewhat because he didn't want to deal with the higher competition when OU moves to the SEC. And at USC in the PAC winning would be much easier. Not so much in the BIG 10. Can you say backfire.

 

[gln1955]

I'm not liking this news one bit.
Sources: USC, UCLA planning move to Big Ten.
It may be soon enough that I don't like NCAA football anymore either. Well, at least I still have Dartmouth and the Ivy League.

-Mike

I hate this. A conference that extends from coast to coast is not good for fans of any of these programs. Before long, there will be the SEC, the BIG10 and all the also rans.

 

[SoonerBill]

I also heard on the radio this morning that Oregon is talking to the Big 10. Could be headed to 2 or 3 huge conferences.

 

[MJ5150]

I hate this. A conference that extends from coast to coast is not good for fans of any of these programs. Before long, there will be the SEC, the BIG10 and all the also rans.

I'll dislike this move even more when they try and sugar coat it by saying how the extra revenue from being in the Big-10 will support women's athletics and other sports with less revenue.
Don't start with the lies. Just admit it's a cash grab for men's football.

-Mike

 

[FilterFunk]

I'm not liking this news one bit.
Sources: USC, UCLA planning move to Big Ten.
It may be soon enough that I don't like NCAA football anymore either. Well, at least I still have Dartmouth and the Ivy League.

-Mike

I'm speechless...

 

[gln1955]

Whelp, it's a done deal and rumors now are that more PAC 12 teams have already applied to the BIG10.

 

[GregC]

Whelp, it's a done deal and rumors now are that more PAC 12 teams have already applied to the BIG10.

Makes sense that they would; the Pac wasn't very attractive before in football and it's much less so with the LA teams gone.

That said, the Big Ten stretching from LA to Jersey is ridiculous. At least the SEC is only on the eastern side of the country, and no further north than Mizzou.

 

[MJ5150]

Finebaum is saying we are on the verge of two super conferences. That, I think is lameo.

-Mike

 

[gln1955]

Depending on how big they get, and how they may be broken into divisions, teams in the same "conference" might only play each other once every 4 or 5 years.

 

[Pilgrim]

This is a real problem for the rest of the PAC-12. Rumors already circle about Oregon and Washington making a move as well. Hopefully they will wait while the PAC-12 talks things over.

I see this potentially going a number of ways....

1) First is the PAC-12 staying a conference and raiding the Mt. West for teams that contribute something to their TV market, like UNLV and San Diego State. I suppose Boise State. Fresno State and San Jose State might contribute some value in terms of fringe TV markets. Unfortunately none of them dominate a major TV market, nor do they have national name recognition. This idea would only work if the trend to "super conferences" of 20+ teams does not continue, and financially it wouldn't make the PAC-12 competitive with the existing conferences. USC and UCLA were big contributors to the value of the last PAC-12 media package, which is in negotiations now.

2) Second is the PAC-12 making a pitch to the Big 12 to merge after Texas and Oklahoma take off for the SEC. Then the Big 12 would be the dominant conference in two-thirds of the US, from the Mississippi River west to the Pacific. I think this is the best case scenario, as it would create a super-conference of about 22 teams and would have decent coverage in terms of major TV markets in the west...except for Los Angeles, which UCLA and USC would still "own." There are already rumors of individual PAC-12 teams wanting to look into the Big 12, and Colorado used to be in the Big 12.

3) Third is a merger with the Mt. West, which is the next strongest conference outside the Power 5, and it and the PAC-12 would cover the western US pretty well. The Big Sky conference also operates in the west, but frankly, it's not much of a factor. This would do very little to complement the PAC-12 but would provide another large conference of 20 teams. This would be a weak conference compared to other large conferences in terms of TV revenue. (On a personal note, I'd love to see Colorado and Colorado State in the same conference, but that doesn't matter to most people.)

I'm sure there are other potential outcomes, but those seem the most likely to me. Of course, there's bound to be a lot of stuff going on that I don't recognize.

I may change my mind tomorrow!

 

[SoonerBill]

This is a real problem for the rest of the PAC-12. Rumors already circle about Oregon and Washington making a move as well. Hopefully they will wait while the PAC-12 talks things over.

I see this potentially going a number of ways....

1) First is the PAC-12 staying a conference and raiding the Mt. West for teams that contribute something to their TV market, like UNLV and San Diego State. I suppose Boise State. Fresno State and San Jose State might contribute some value in terms of fringe TV markets. Unfortunately none of them dominate a major TV market, nor do they have national name recognition. This idea would only work if the trend to "super conferences" of 20+ teams does not continue, and financially it wouldn't make the PAC-12 competitive with the existing conferences. USC and UCLA were big contributors to the value of the last PAC-12 media package, which is in negotiations now.

2) Second is the PAC-12 making a pitch to the Big 12 to merge after Texas and Oklahoma take off for the SEC. Then the Big 12 would be the dominant conference in two-thirds of the US, from the Mississippi River west to the Pacific. I think this is the best case scenario, as it would create a super-conference of about 22 teams and would have decent coverage in terms of major TV markets in the west...except for Los Angeles, which UCLA and USC would still "own." There are already rumors of individual PAC-12 teams wanting to look into the Big 12, and Colorado used to be in the Big 12.

3) Third is a merger with the Mt. West, which is the next strongest conference outside the Power 5, and it and the PAC-12 would cover the western US pretty well. The Big Sky conference also operates in the west, but frankly, it's not much of a factor. This would do very little to complement the PAC-12 but would provide another large conference of 20 teams. This would be a weak conference compared to other large conferences in terms of TV revenue. (On a personal note, I'd love to see Colorado and Colorado State in the same conference, but that doesn't matter to most people.)

I'm sure there are other potential outcomes, but those seem the most likely to me. Of course, there's bound to be a lot of stuff going on that I don't recognize.

I may change my mind tomorrow!

There are reports that #2 is already happening. The remains of the PAC-12 and Big 12 merging would make a decent conference.

 

[ejaggers]

First off, I'm still "Flyin' High" from the womens college softball world series!!!
Those who didn't watch it missed out on a treat both this year and last.

1) Last year Odicci Alexander of JMU (David) slew Goliath (Okla Sooners),
and the Sooners came back to win it all from the losers bracket.

2) This year, an all Big 12 series, Sooners vs Texas,
where Jocelyn Alo broke all kinds of records,
and poor Tx got the crap kicked outta them.

OU has undoubtedly the best overall team ever assembled in the history of the sport.

BUT....
OU and TX are moving from the Big 12 to the SEC, and I feel they will get lost in the mix,
just like the other teams that left (Nebraska, Missouri, Tx A&M, Colorado).

The ole-timers remember the big battles between OU & Nebraska for instance,
and now U of N seems to be so ordinary.

I think the same thing will happen to TX and OU in the SEC,
and I really hate that since I've been a Sooner fan for decades.

Some of the football players left after hearing about the move,
along with the head coach.

What in the world is OU and TX thinking?????......057912

 

[gln1955]

There are reports that #2 is already happening. The remains of the PAC-12 and Big 12 merging would make a decent conference.

In terms of a conference with decent team parity and respectability to the rest of the world, that makes the most sense. It's all about TV money at this point, so who knows what will happen.

 

[Pilgrim]

One of the coldest and wettest days of my life were in end zone seats with my son, watching a Husky game. As I recall, they lost, but it was still fun.

In terms of a conference with decent team parity and respectability to the rest of the world, that makes the most sense. It's all about TV money at this point, so who knows what will happen.

Agreed. I think a Big 12 merger makes the most sense, and it's being discussed on Denver radio. Such a merged conference would be competitive across the conference. The problem is that it would lack "national names." The PAC-12 part would bring Seattle, Denver and the San Francisco TV markets, which is at least something of value.

 

[SoonerBill]

First off, I'm still "Flyin' High" from the womens college softball world series!!!
Those who didn't watch it missed out on a treat both this year and last.

1) Last year Odicci Alexander of JMU (David) slew Goliath (Okla Sooners),
and the Sooners came back to win it all from the losers bracket.

2) This year, an all Big 12 series, Sooners vs Texas,
where Jocelyn Alo broke all kinds of records,
and poor Tx got the crap kicked outta them.

OU has undoubtedly the best overall team ever assembled in the history of the sport.

BUT....
OU and TX are moving from the Big 12 to the SEC, and I feel they will get lost in the mix,
just like the other teams that left (Nebraska, Missouri, Tx A&M, Colorado).

The ole-timers remember the big battles between OU & Nebraska for instance,
and now U of N seems to be so ordinary.

I think the same thing will happen to TX and OU in the SEC,
and I really hate that since I've been a Sooner fan for decades.

Some of the football players left after hearing about the move,
along with the head coach.

What in the world is OU and TX thinking?????......057912

I agree with Texas getting lost. They're almost lost in the Big12. OU on the other hand could parlay the new coaching improvements plus the expected recruiting boost from players that want to play in the SEC and be very good.

 

[FilterFunk]

From an article on Xfinity:
"USC and UCLA stand to significantly increase their revenues. The Pac-12 distributed only $19.8 million per school in fiscal year 2021, by far the least among Power 5 conferences. The Big Ten's per-school distribution was $46.1 million, second only to the SEC's $54.6 million.

The Pac-12 has had difficulty getting its conference television network untracked while the Big Ten Network is the most established of the conference networks."

 

[Gaolee]

From an article on Xfinity:
"USC and UCLA stand to significantly increase their revenues. The Pac-12 distributed only $19.8 million per school in fiscal year 2021, by far the least among Power 5 conferences. The Big Ten's per-school distribution was $46.1 million, second only to the SEC's $54.6 million.

The Pac-12 has had difficulty getting its conference television network untracked while the Big Ten Network is the most established of the conference networks."

It's all about the cash. I'm OK with Washington being a regional power. As long as they beat Oregon and Washington State, the rest is negotiable. And I'll be paying attention to the Ivies. As far as the rest, it's just another professional league now.

 

[GregC]