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NCAA Football 2022
- Thread starter Gaolee
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Well...
USC is still the University of Southern California, my Trojans are still based in LA, and they still play their home games in the Coliseum. That will just have to be enough for me.
I guess it's time to dissolve any lingering Pac-12/Big Ten Rose Bowl rivalry connection.
We've all been around a while (I'm 3 times 20 myself). We get that change happens, and that many of the old ways have already fallen by the wayside. But we sure don't have to like it. I'm going to miss certain traditions, even though I know I can't do a thing about it.
Is it too late to become an Ivy League fan?
USC is still the University of Southern California, my Trojans are still based in LA, and they still play their home games in the Coliseum. That will just have to be enough for me.
I guess it's time to dissolve any lingering Pac-12/Big Ten Rose Bowl rivalry connection.
We've all been around a while (I'm 3 times 20 myself). We get that change happens, and that many of the old ways have already fallen by the wayside. But we sure don't have to like it. I'm going to miss certain traditions, even though I know I can't do a thing about it.
Is it too late to become an Ivy League fan?
A Rose Bowl between USC and a PAC 12 team (assuming there will be such a thing) would be weird.
No sir. Come on over and join @Gaolee and I. I'm a Dartmouth fan. If I remember right, he's a Yale fan.
Plenty of other schools to pick that play good football.
-Mike
I have to agree with post #40, above.
Larry Scott managed the PAC-12 into a ditch, and to cap the irony, yesterday was his official last day with the PAC-12. So he presided over the crash, too.
I'd love to see the PAC-12 and Big 12 merge, but there is a significant chance that WA and OR will leave, and the remaining schools may have to make a deal with the Mtn. West. Colorado might be able to find their way back into the Big 12, where it came from a decade or so ago.
At least a Mtn. West merger would make geographic sense and travel costs would be more reasonable then having teams travel across a wider area. And at that point, the Mt. West would be the strongest second-tier football conference.
There's a significant chance that the ACC will lose Clemson, Miami and FL State to the SCC, and that will put them about even with a revised Mtn. West.
Larry Scott managed the PAC-12 into a ditch, and to cap the irony, yesterday was his official last day with the PAC-12. So he presided over the crash, too.
I'd love to see the PAC-12 and Big 12 merge, but there is a significant chance that WA and OR will leave, and the remaining schools may have to make a deal with the Mtn. West. Colorado might be able to find their way back into the Big 12, where it came from a decade or so ago.
At least a Mtn. West merger would make geographic sense and travel costs would be more reasonable then having teams travel across a wider area. And at that point, the Mt. West would be the strongest second-tier football conference.
There's a significant chance that the ACC will lose Clemson, Miami and FL State to the SCC, and that will put them about even with a revised Mtn. West.
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Good point about Larry Scott @Pilgrim. I totally agree. Did you see his exit interview where he blamed all the schools for his failures?
Interesting fact about Mr. Scott. During his tenure as commissioner, he made more in salary than each school in the conference made off TV revenue during that same time from his Pac-12 Network. Not just a few bucks either, double. He sure did manage the conference into a ditch, then jumped on his golden parachute and took off.
-Mike
Interesting fact about Mr. Scott. During his tenure as commissioner, he made more in salary than each school in the conference made off TV revenue during that same time from his Pac-12 Network. Not just a few bucks either, double. He sure did manage the conference into a ditch, then jumped on his golden parachute and took off.
-Mike
Yep. We need a Cornell fan, and they are red like USC. Mr. Funk, you will fit right in.
After a couple of days it appears that the PAC-12 is going to make every effort to stay together and grow. The keys are OR and WA.
They are often assumed to be looking at outside options very carefully, and the accompanying assumption is that retaining them will require a sweetheart deal which gives them an extra cut of the TV money. I wouldn't be averse to that if it keeps the conference together.
There is even some speculation about the future of the Big 12; it's not necessarily going to be a life raft, there are schools that may be looking to move out if they think its future is not solid. It's not beyond possibility that some of the Big 12 members might be willing to move to the PAC-12 if they think it would pay off. Houston and TCU (although pledged to the Big 12) would look pretty good in the PAC-12 with the Dallas and Houston TV markets attached.
They are often assumed to be looking at outside options very carefully, and the accompanying assumption is that retaining them will require a sweetheart deal which gives them an extra cut of the TV money. I wouldn't be averse to that if it keeps the conference together.
There is even some speculation about the future of the Big 12; it's not necessarily going to be a life raft, there are schools that may be looking to move out if they think its future is not solid. It's not beyond possibility that some of the Big 12 members might be willing to move to the PAC-12 if they think it would pay off. Houston and TCU (although pledged to the Big 12) would look pretty good in the PAC-12 with the Dallas and Houston TV markets attached.
Boise State and Fresno State might work well in the new Pac-12. They're not the biggest names, but they have respectable football programs.
I'm watching a gem of a game on Origin Sports, Clemson at NC State from 2009. CJ Spiller versus Russell Wilson. This is a fun game.
-Mike
-Mike
Took a trip way back in time to watch the 2001 Rose Bowl, Purdue vs Washington. Drew Brees vs Marques Tuiasosopo.
I dig watching these old ball games.
-Mike
I dig watching these old ball games.
-Mike
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Yep, and with the right TV deal and associated NILs they might have the potential to grow those programs a bit more. The whole angle of televised late night games might yet be the saving grace for the PAC.
I ought to go back and watch the 1998 Rose Bowl with WSU and Michigan. Calling the game were Keith Jackson (a WSU graduate) and Bob Griese (the Michigan QB's father.) A fascinating pair of broadcasters for this game. QBs were Ryan Leaf (a head case, but the best college QB I have ever seen) and Brian Griese, who played in the NFL.
And the end is the best example I've ever seen of "We were never beaten, we just ran out of time."
Michigan had a 21-16 lead, and WSU forced Michigan to punt, but received the ball on its own 7-yard line with just 16 seconds left. The Cougars weren't done yet, however.
Leaf completed a 46-yard pass to Taylor to get on Michigan's side of the field. After an illegal formation penalty, WSU successfully ran a hook-and-lateral play that got the Cougars to the Michigan 26-yard line with two seconds left. The clock was stopped while the first-down chains were moved.
That's where the game went bad. The clock had 2 seconds left when the ball was spotted. Leaf took the snap and immediately downed the ball, but officials ruled that Leaf spiked the ball too late, costing the Cougars one final shot at the end zone. WSU fans thought the whistle was too slow and let the clock run out.
There isn't a Michigan fan in the world who would give the Cougs one more second in that game. The whole stadium knew that WSU was going to run a pass play into the end zone and Leaf was going to drill a hole through someone. I'm one of those who believes the whistle was slow and the clock was slower than the whistle.
But that was the end of a great classic. WSU was one second short of having the last play that might have changed that game.
And the end is the best example I've ever seen of "We were never beaten, we just ran out of time."
Michigan had a 21-16 lead, and WSU forced Michigan to punt, but received the ball on its own 7-yard line with just 16 seconds left. The Cougars weren't done yet, however.
Leaf completed a 46-yard pass to Taylor to get on Michigan's side of the field. After an illegal formation penalty, WSU successfully ran a hook-and-lateral play that got the Cougars to the Michigan 26-yard line with two seconds left. The clock was stopped while the first-down chains were moved.
That's where the game went bad. The clock had 2 seconds left when the ball was spotted. Leaf took the snap and immediately downed the ball, but officials ruled that Leaf spiked the ball too late, costing the Cougars one final shot at the end zone. WSU fans thought the whistle was too slow and let the clock run out.
There isn't a Michigan fan in the world who would give the Cougs one more second in that game. The whole stadium knew that WSU was going to run a pass play into the end zone and Leaf was going to drill a hole through someone. I'm one of those who believes the whistle was slow and the clock was slower than the whistle.
But that was the end of a great classic. WSU was one second short of having the last play that might have changed that game.
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#2 Florida State at #14 Miami. Vinny Testaverde matches up against Deion Sanders. November 1, 1986. I forgot how stacked these teams were, wow.
-Mike
-Mike
I seem to remember a time when Scott Frost was the hot and hip upcoming coach everyone wanted and how great Nebraska was going to be with him returning to coach the team he played for.
Well, not so much. He probably needs to go back to a D2 school or be an assistant.
-Mike
Well, not so much. He probably needs to go back to a D2 school or be an assistant.
-Mike
And so it starts....
Penn State v. Purdue tonight at 8:00. Major college football on a Thursday is just wrong. Weekdays are for MAC games around here.
Penn State v. Purdue tonight at 8:00. Major college football on a Thursday is just wrong. Weekdays are for MAC games around here.
I can't help but root for Scott Frost, although I don't mention that to my new son-in-law who is a Colorado Buffalo. I know the coaches have made some bad calls in NE, but they sure have been snake-bitten by some late fluke plays.
As for the Cougs, we started with our normal Gameday Day 0 victory - one visible (Johnny-come-lately) Washington husky flag, 200+ WSU Cougar flags on Gameday. That starts the season correctly.
I get up earlier on Saturdays to watch Gameday with the Cougar flag always present. Our first game is Idaho (8 miles away) and is firmly expected to be a W.
My adopted Colorado State team plays at Michigan on Saturday, and I wish them well. New coach, new QB, and a tremendously big bite to start the season. But if you want people to notice you, then you have to try on the big boys.
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