Neck dive solution?

[HaphAsSard]

Yes, but the strap being before the body looks ugly!

To you, perhaps, and from a picture. To the audience, the player's arm will move over that area back and forth all the time. To the player, any time he'll look down toward that area, it will remind him it cost him zero dollars (and however many Americents a twist tie costs).

 

[JRA]

Until coming to Talk Bass I never knew neck dive was a condition or crisis!

there are lots of "TB only" and "TB hysteria" issues and subjects, but neck dive isn't one of them, and it's an issue that isn't easily tolerated by serious, experienced players IMO/IME. i.e., lots of folks don't realize that they support the neck while playing, and consequently: they don't realize how their playing might improve without that encumbrance.

if the neck dives, hanging free on a strap, while you are 'wearing' the bass = you're not going to play as well as you could (without the neck dive) because you're using some of your energy/shoulders/arms/hands/fingers/posture to hold the neck up. it's a simple concept but many are unaware or don't care about maximizing 'advantages'.

 

[dune]

Non-destructive and easily reversible.

 

[2saddleslab]

Made a few myself when I owned multiple ASAT basses.

I've also added spacers to the top buttons of my Warmoth builds, as every little bit helps.

 

[bassdude51]

And..........it can be hung on the wall with a nail.

 

[JIO]

To you, perhaps, and from a picture. To the audience, the player's arm will move over that area back and forth all the time. To the player, any time he'll look down toward that area, it will remind him it cost him zero dollars (and however many Americents a twist tie costs).

 

[JIO]

It may be the ONLY solution, unless you ADD weight on the body itself!

I installed Hipshot Ultralite USA Mini Clover tuners and lost about a pound overall up there. Tuner quality is first class too.

...

 

[WI Short Scaler]

Until coming to Talk Bass I never knew neck dive was a condition or crisis! My first two basses had a strap button at or below the 22nd fret so it was normal. Just use a wide leather strap and all is good. Now then, the horror of active electronics in a bass is something worthwhile to start a TB riot over!!!-Tom.

I felt the same way. I got my first Musicmaster bass long before home internet was a thing so I had no idea it was a problem. It was just the way the bass was and I have learned to play with it. I liked the comfort of the smaller size over the 34" scale I had at the time. No looking back

And that last full scale I ever had was an active bass. No going back to one of those either.

 

[Peteyboy]

Made a few myself when I owned multiple ASAT basses.

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I've also added spacers to the top buttons of my Warmoth builds, as every little bit helps.

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I'm impressed that you have a rider on your contract called for, and that you received a full truckload of beer.

 

[2saddleslab]

I'm impressed that you have a rider on your contract called for, and that you received a full truckload of beer.

I was thirsty.

 

[Peteyboy]

When I was 16 years old I learned to play bass on a Gibson EB4L. Super divey. Never even thought about that until I joined Talkbass.

 

[Major Seven]

No-one ever tried to just reposition the REAR strap button (not the horn one) a little higher on the body? Like an offset straplock ?
I didn't had the need to do so but simple physics suggests it should work just fine.

I tried this. It did help but then the body wanted to rotate counter clockwise (top of bass towards your body) .
This resulted in more or a left hand wrist bend making it harder to play. Unintended consequence.

 

[Basta-bass]

Strange unexpected reaction...
Let me think about it.

 

[PacoJastoriusFr]

A Good way to solve the problem...
Thumb NT neckdive solution

 

[RedNuk]

I don't have my Thumb BO5 anymore but the solution I used at the time was an "S" shaped hook (see pic) where one side would be hooked to my strap near the bottom straplock and the other side I would hook to my belt... This would pull down on the Thumb's body to rebalance it Only catch was having to unhook from my belt everytime I wanted to put down the bass. Costs like 80 cents and no mod done to the bass

 

[ravelax]

No-one ever tried to just reposition the REAR strap button (not the horn one) a little higher on the body? Like an offset straplock ?
I didn't had the need to do so but simple physics suggests it should work just fine.

I did that on my T-bird. I repositioned the strap button approximately midway up the body, on the upper "wing". The T-bird now balances perfectly, which lets me appreciate its light weight. It's my most comfortable bass to play, the rear end of the strap doesn't get in the way, actually it makes the strap wrap more around my body which also aids in balancing the bass. It also looks perfectly normal from the front. I really recommend it if you have a neck heavy T-bird (probably mostly an issue with the Epiphone VP/60's like mine, with the very large headstock).