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Need advice on Euphonic Audio VL210 versions A ,B, C

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otto B

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I am looking in getting a Euphonic Audio VL210. I found out that there are 3 versions: A B and C. I can't find what version is the most popular. The only thing that I found is that:

VL‑210A: Sound: Tight, defined, and accurate, with a very low‑frequency extension (38 Hz) and smooth mids/highs.

VL‑210B Sound: Similar to A but with slightly improved low‑end tightness and driver quality; retains EA’s neutral, detailed response.

VL‑210C Sound: Still deep and smooth, but with a slightly warmer or more compact tone than A/B; less driver separation.

Any feedback.
 
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I wouldn’t get hung up on a particular version, I’d be more inclined to find one that’s not been abused and/or comes with some spare parts. The drivers and the crossovers in EA cabs were not off-the-shelf and are not easy to source since they closed up shop. The VL cabs are fantastic and every one that I’ve encountered was very well balanced across the frequency range, but the crossover trims can be a bit too much of a good thing - best to get them dialed in for a flat response and do your EQ via amp or bass. Good luck in your search!
 
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burgerdj said:
I wouldn’t get hung up on a particular version, I’d be more inclined to find one that’s not been abused and/or comes with some spare parts. The drivers and the crossovers in EA cabs were not off-the-shelf and are not easy to source since they closed up shop. The VL cabs are fantastic and every one that I’ve encountered was very well balanced across the frequency range, but the crossover trims can be a bit too much of a good thing - best to get them dialed in for a flat response and do your EQ via amp or bass. Good luck in your search!
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I appreciate the feedback; I will definitely pay attention to the condition. I just acquired a used VL110 wow what a cab, the sound is just outstanding. I was thinking to either get another Vl110, but I think the VL210 may sound better.
 
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otto B said:
I am looking in getting a Euphonic Audio VL210. I found out that there are 3 versions: A B and C. I can't find what version is the most popular. The only thing that I found is that:

VL‑210A: Sound: Tight, defined, and accurate, with a very low‑frequency extension (38 Hz) and smooth mids/highs.

VL‑210B Sound: Similar to A but with slightly improved low‑end tightness and driver quality; retains EA’s neutral, detailed response.

VL‑210C Sound: Still deep and smooth, but with a slightly warmer or more compact tone than A/B; less driver separation.

Any feedback.
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VL-210A has cast frame with 67oz magnet
VL-210B has 80oz magnet
VL-210C has CCAW(Copper Clad Aluminum Wire) voice coil.

jd
 
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I ran a pair of VL110s for years. The note about unique drivers is accurate. One of mine failed when EA was in the middle of its shutdown and they directed me to a substitute driver. It was OK, but the difference was immediately apparent. I sold both cabs shortly thereafter. It’s a bit sad as my EA/Walter Woods rig was probably the best sounding thing I’ve ever had…
 
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Bonecat said:
I ran a pair of VL110s for years. The note about unique drivers is accurate. One of mine failed when EA was in the middle of its shutdown and they directed me to a substitute driver. It was OK, but the difference was immediately apparent. I sold both cabs shortly thereafter. It’s a bit sad as my EA/Walter Woods rig was probably the best sounding thing I’ve ever had…
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I do concern about the unavailability of parts now, that maybe the reason why these cabs are priced low. I figure that because the 210 are power hungry is less subjective to be blown than the 110. I was thinking try to get it from Guitar Center as they have the 45-return policy. If the cab is bad or get s bad, I can always return it.
 
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otto B said:
I appreciate the feedback; I will definitely pay attention to the condition. I just acquired a used VL110 wow what a cab, the sound is just outstanding. I was thinking to either get another Vl110, but I think the VL210 may sound better.
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I had 3 VL110’s at one point and they were great in any configuration.

Still keep one VL110 around for the living room.

As mentioned spare parts availability is next to non-existent so be careful as these cabs do like to be fed a bit of power to open up. They sound best being pushed, so there is that. I will say they handle it. Just can’t expect too much from a 110 or 210.
 
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burgerdj said:
Another VL110 would be a much easier schlep. The VL 210 is a beast!
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I have a VL210. Love it when I'm playing through it, hate it when I have to move it ;)

How can I tell whether it's an A, B, C? FWIW, I bought mine used in 2002, the model, power rating, and serial # are all hand-written in permanent marker.
 
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John Dong said:
The woofers can be reconed but the reconer may not have access to CCAW voice coils.

Here is a reconing shop: Circuit Shop Loudspeakers

Tweeters can have their diaphragms replaced. Midranges from Pioneer are out of production. Midrange replacement: A good replacement VL midrange driver is available from Parts Express: Goldwood GM-85/8(https://www.parts-express.com/Goldw...Sealed-Back-Midrange-8-Ohm-280-115?quantity=1).

jd
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Updated link for midrange: https://www.parts-express.com/Goldw...Sealed-Back-Midrange-8-Ohm-280-115?quantity=1
 
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I am trying to figure out what is the average price is now days. In the GC page they want an average of $450-$749 good to descent condition. I have found a person that have for sale two mint VL210 that are the Leland Sklar cabs + iAMP 500 for $1,900 all. what do you all think?
 
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I owned a single VL 110 all the information above is accurate. EA also were among the first to use kevlar impregnated cones.
All their speakers were custom designs that Eminence fabricated specifically for them. You're not going to find something like
them today. Just my take of course. Comparing them to other cabinets available today they are quite heavy and require a lot
of power because of the Transmission Line design ( think Bose Wave Radio).
 

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