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need help with a decision....

Im a beginner bass player and am finally getting off of my beginner squire p-bass....now the only question is, what bass to get next. im looking for a bass with a lot of growl kinda like the sound Justin Chancellor,the bassist for tool, has.

im currently working with a rather low budget, however a trip to bass emporium recently let a certain Lakland Skyline 44-01 Standard catch my eye and i was wondering if anybody had any opinions or experience with this bass, so that way im not spending $739.00 blindly.

however if anyone has any other suggestions i willing to give them my full attention and consideration.

thanks in advance
 
What about one of the new Ibanez ATK basses or a musicman sub. Both deceantly growly basses. Justin plays a Wal and the sound they produce is pretty unique. A musicman or warwick will get you growl though.

The lakland's are nice basses, but i wouldnt describe them as growly, actually quite the opposite, i find them pretty clean.
 
I love growl and went from a P bass to a Warwick LX5, more sterile basses just don't do it for me (most of the time). You could probably score a nicer P bass than you currently have without going into the price range of Laklands and Warwicks and still keep the growl and feel you're currently used to. The Emporium has the P bass Standard for just over 6 hundred (you can probably talk them down, they're nice guys).
 
That is a great deal for a Lakland, but I don't think you would be happy with it as Lakland are generally more polite sounding, not so growly.

I would go for a Fender Jazz/Jaguar, or a used Musicman, preferably the ones with multiple p/u configurations.
 
What about one of the new Ibanez ATK basses or a musicman sub. Both deceantly growly basses. Justin plays a Wal and the sound they produce is pretty unique. A musicman or warwick will get you growl though.

The lakland's are nice basses, but i wouldnt describe them as growly, actually quite the opposite, i find them pretty clean.

+1 on the Ibanez.

What about a used Peavey T40 :hmm: ? Heavy on the shoulder and on tone.

BTW, this idea that Wal=Justin Chancellor or vice cersa, is nonsense really. I know that nobody here has actually made that statement/insinuation, so please don't flame me, but really the Wal Customs can make a hell of a lot of different sounds and that one particular tone that you hear on Tool's albums sounds nothing like most of the tones that come out of my Wal.

There are clearly other factors at work there (his technique, amp and affects). I'm sure that you could get just about as close to that tone with some of the basses mentioned here, as you could with $5,000 worth of Wal.

Hope you find what your looking for ;) .
 
the Wal Customs can make a hell of a lot of different sounds and that one particular tone that you hear on Tool's albums sounds nothing like most of the tones that come out of my Wal.

There are clearly other factors at work there (his technique, amp and affects). I'm sure that you could get just about as close to that tone with some of the basses mentioned here, as you could with $5,000 worth of Wal.

Hope you find what your looking for ;) .

+10000,

in a recent issue of bassplayer justin says that he loves his wal so much he got them to build him another to the exact same spec, and it sounds NOTHING like his original. they are amazing basses, but for your price range a wal isnt going to happen. i play a deluxe fender Jazz and fender Jaguar, maybe think about the jag, coz when i switch the neck p-up off, the bridge p-up growls like a b!tch.

ive also tried the ibanez ATK, and i thought it was great, its sorta ibanez's budget answer to the MusicMans, it might be closer to the tool sound than a fender.
Dosi

PS: i've got a Sansamp BDDI that can almost get me a tool-like tone sometimes (coz it wishes it was an SVT, like justin uses)
 
The biggest shocker for me was hearing Justin's famously-Wal-derived tone being effectively copped by a kid at Guitar Center playing (and I know you won't believe me, but it's true) a Squier 5 string (the Precision-shaped one with the Jazz p'ups) through a GK rig. Sounded just like him.

Yes. I know it's impossible. But it happened.

I think that may be the best proof I've ever personally witnessed that tone really is in you hands, not your gear.

But go for the Lakland. You'll want different p'ups, but you can't beat the quality for the price on a Skyline.