Need more heft from my LMIII - Little Marcus 800?

Discussion in 'Amps and Cabs [BG]' started by bob atherton, May 15, 2019.

  1. bob atherton

    bob atherton

    Mar 8, 2005
    I'm finding my Markbass LMIII is not giving me the scale of sound that I would like. I just tried an Ashdown ABM 500 amp into my Markbass cabs and that sounded pretty good in the scale of sound department, though the amp (part of a combo) would be too big for me to use.

    I've been using Markbass for a few years now a love the size, sound and reliability of their kit. Would the Little Marcus 800 give me a bigger, fatter, punchier sound than my LMIII? My tone is pretty old school without much top end
  2. twinfallsbass

    twinfallsbass Supporting Member

    Jan 24, 2005
    Don’t know much about the Marcus stuff, but how about an LM800, LM tube 800 or TTE 800.
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  3. Russell L

    Russell L

    Mar 5, 2011
    Cayce, SC
    Before you buy another amp, try an eq pedal, or any other eq you can run between your bass and amp.

    The LMIII is different than many amps in that there is a big gap between the low control and low-mid control. The lows are centered at 40 Hz while the low-mids are at 360 Hz. You may like some more control in between there, say 100-250. A pedal would save you some dough.
  4. DWBass

    DWBass The Funkfather

    It's the Markbass cabs. Don't like them. Never sounded good to me. You should have no problem getting what you want out of the LMIII!
  5. Lesfunk

    Lesfunk Bootlegger guitars : S.I.T. Strings Supporting Member

    Apr 5, 2007
    Florida USA
    75652F6E-6ECF-4B04-9799-4E66C2B30D36.jpeg 5AC3AADC-12DB-486A-A3CF-3CFA4953AC7D.jpeg I have a LM800 head and it doesn’t give me any different sound than my LM3 .
    It just has more power.
    I don’t know what you’re using for cabinets but in my experience, adding speakers generally gives me more punch than adding watts.
    My little mark combo head pushing 6 tens at 4 ohms is more fat and punchy than my little mark 800 pushing four tens at 8ohms
    Both are running 500 watts

    A little mark 800 @4 ohms will be better than a little mark 3 @ 4 ohms of course.
    I have no experience with the Marcus Miller stuff. I’ve always played std. little marks and when it came time for a new rig , I went with what I know works for me
    Last edited: May 15, 2019
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  6. bob atherton

    bob atherton

    Mar 8, 2005
    The reason that I thought about the Marcus amp is that the tone frequencies are at different points to all of these, and there are five of them. In theory, the Marcus amp should give a fatter sound, but that is just my theory. I have often been wrong..!
  7. bob atherton

    bob atherton

    Mar 8, 2005
    Good idea. maybe some sort of graphic EQ pedal .
  8. Russell L

    Russell L

    Mar 5, 2011
    Cayce, SC
    Also, check the Markbass thread. Lots of talk about the Marcus, cabs, LMs, etc.

    Don't listen too much to criticism about Markbass cabs. Some don't like them, but some don't like other brands as well.
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  9. bob atherton

    bob atherton

    Mar 8, 2005
    I like the cabs, quite a lot. As I say the Ashdown amp sounded pretty decent through the cabs.
    FWIW I own 5 MB cabs and use them in different configurations, depending on which of my 3 bands I'm in, and which venue..!
  10. StayLow


    Mar 14, 2008
    Did you try boosting the VPF the using the VLE to roll-off the highs?

    With the Ashdown did you have the "magnifier" engaged? That's essentially an octave effect.

    A Marcus might work better for you, or the Big Bang is widely regarded as the most thumping down low of the MarkBass line.
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  11. bob atherton

    bob atherton

    Mar 8, 2005
    Yes and no. I use a touch of both but will try quite a bit of both. Does anyone know at what bass frequency the VPF boosts? Thanks, Bob
  12. I just picked up a b7k pre to use with my LMIII.
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  13. StayLow


    Mar 14, 2008
    The center frequency is in the manuals, found on the MB website. Much more important is the net effect of combining both filters in real life though.

    Good luck!
  14. MattZilla


    Jun 26, 2013
    moar cabz.

    Seriously, what cabs are you using? If they're both 11x, look into doubling that with a 21x cab. If they're both 21x cabs, fire a shot in the dim light by going with more watts from the same mfr.
  15. Kaplan


    Jul 25, 2018
    Check out my comparison
    Little Marcus vs LMK
  16. levis76

    levis76 Defender of the Low Ender

    Apr 14, 2007
    Metro Detroit
    HPF, you’ll be amazed how much headroom one of these can free up.
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  17. Russell L

    Russell L

    Mar 5, 2011
    Cayce, SC
    The VPF boosts highs and lows., they say. Or it cuts mids, giving a scooped sound. Markbass lists the center frequency at 380Hz. In use, to me, it feels like it boosts the highs and lows. I assume the area around 380 Hz is what gets left behind. Anyway, whichever way you call it, you end up with a mid-scooped sound. You can easily get lost in the mix with too much use of the control. You can also make your speaker run out of excursion at high volume, especially if you play with a heavy hand. If you hear clicking that's likely the cause.

    Use it sparingly, or at least carefully.
  18. Flog

    Flog a Viking in Tejas

    Oct 18, 2017
    Denton, Tx.
    Gawd, those are ugly!
    Ok, back to the thread....
  19. Russell L

    Russell L

    Mar 5, 2011
    Cayce, SC
    Hey, how about a VT bass pedal?
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  20. RichSnyder

    RichSnyder Columbia, MD Supporting Member

    Jun 19, 2003
    I never loved the Markbass cabs, seemed to have a boxiness to them that didn't sit well with my ears. Not really sure what you mean by the "scale" of the tone, But I'd probably go with an HPF and experimenting with some EQ settings before jumping to new gear.