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buldog5151bass
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I'm shocked only 1 responce implying to get a tube amp and your problems are solved!
Maybe that's a tongue and cheek answer but I suspect there is some belief in that statement by those who think that way. I guess when you drink the koolaid thru a 6550 tube it’s easy to believe that!
More power does help but power alone may not. Big power with multiple cabs that can handle it and used carefully with good judgments in EQ (used sparingly is how I do it) can yield a strong presence with more than ample volume at a higher level before distortion.
Until someone makes a 5000 watt all tube Bass head that'll need a forklift to lift it not to mention a 440V outlet, 300 tube watts isn't really going to help the OP's situation either.
Also,
More speakers=More sound
This will go along ways with or without more power.
Better yet, do what others said and turn the guitars down a bit!
Maybe that's a tongue and cheek answer but I suspect there is some belief in that statement by those who think that way. I guess when you drink the koolaid thru a 6550 tube it’s easy to believe that!
More power does help but power alone may not. Big power with multiple cabs that can handle it and used carefully with good judgments in EQ (used sparingly is how I do it) can yield a strong presence with more than ample volume at a higher level before distortion.
Until someone makes a 5000 watt all tube Bass head that'll need a forklift to lift it not to mention a 440V outlet, 300 tube watts isn't really going to help the OP's situation either.
Also,
More speakers=More sound
This will go along ways with or without more power.
Better yet, do what others said and turn the guitars down a bit!
This is a good idea. I was a guitarist guilty of playing far too loud and I didn't even have a 4x12. I only had an Orange 2x12 cab with a Rockerverb 100 and sometimes a 6505, but both are insanely loud. The drummer also hit super hard, even at practice. We used a decibel meter at practice one time and we were hitting as high as 126db. That would be good if we were playing an arena but in a 17x26 442sqft rehearsal studio? Yea...earplugs were mandatory unless you wanted ringing ears after 2 songs. You really cant even play any bars or clubs close to that loud, especially ones with a sound guy. We really worked on dropping the volume after that practice. So if 1,000 watts with a 4x10 is getting buried in a mix, the band is FAR too loud. There is nothing worse than a drummer who doesn't understand dynamics and the size of the room he's playing in and guitarists and bass players who need to keep turning up to be heard over the other.
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Yup. By the way, I'm supposed to turn my hearing aids off when I play with the band...most of the time I remember....
You only had the 6505, which is the Peavey amp that was made for...Van Halen...nothing quiet about that amp. Sounds great, but LOUD!
Yup, that will do it. Especially if you pair it with the DNS-410 from DNA. I feed my DNS410 with an 800-watt Eden amp and it will handle 1400-watts rms both thermally and mechanically. I am often asked to turn down because I'm drowning out the guitars and keys. I also have another 410, a 115, and a 212 that have lived in my closet for the past 4 years because my one DNS-410 puts out far more sound (max SPL=137db) than any combination of the other three cabs. Only problem is that it is not cheap. street price is ~$1049. I paid $999 for mine back in 2015 and it was easily worth every penny.
Yea, and thats when I started to use the Rockerverb more because it has an attenuator built in. Problem with 100 watt tube amps is they need to be pushed to get cooking and sound their best. At that volume, they are far too loud for practice and even most gigs unless you are playing in a large venue to thousands of people. I found that shutting the RV down to 50 watts was a real sweet spot. Could get it loud enough to get the two tubes cooking but it was still a manageable volume that didn't blow everything away. Was also plenty for every gig we played, even the ones with no sound guy or PA support for the band. The 6505 and the 100 watt JCM I had were just far too much to be useable because the sound guy would have me down at like 2-3 on the volume knob and any guitarist will know that those amps turned down to 2-3 sound like crap.
Another recommendation for the OP other than telling the guitarist to turn down is to have your guitarist use a 50 watt amp, which is still more than enough for practice and most any gig you will play, or have him get a good dirt pedal. I was against getting a dirt pedal because I thought, what's the point when I already have a bad ass Marshall amp. However, a good semi-transparent one like an OCD pedal does wonders. Hit the clean or green channel with it and you can get the amp to break up at a much lower volume. The other solution of course would be an attenuator, but they can be expensive and will put more wear on the tubes.
Actually, you get one gig. Then they know how loud you play, and you never get called back....unless the military wants to get a dictator out of his house, then you get the call. So, two gigs.
"...playing with a drummer and a gutairist who has a 4x12 100watt marshall stack with lots of distortion ..."
In first place I'd ask the guitarist to turn down the bass knobs.
In second instance I'd try to EQ the bass sound just to provide some "bass" to the total band sound.
In first place I'd ask the guitarist to turn down the bass knobs.
In second instance I'd try to EQ the bass sound just to provide some "bass" to the total band sound.
