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#41
reggie hall said:
I was told the 210 xl couldn't handle the b string on a fiver
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A good friend has a 210XL and 115Xl (both 2000's vintage models) that he often uses together and they sound fine to me. He powers them with one of his older GK heads (700RB I think) or an MB500.

I have played acoustic/folk/bluegrass jams with him at parties when he brought just the 210XL. It is a smaller 210 cab (dimensionally) which is nice, and it's sealed (vice ported) to the best of my recollection. We both play 4 string bass and I would call it adequate but not noticeably strong on the E string. It is a great "lower volume venue cab" and has a tight/focused sound - something I usually associate with well designed sealed cabs.

Expecting the 210XL (on its own) to fill a room with low/sub-low frequency sound is asking it to operate well outside of its swim lane in my opinion. I like the cabinet, but it is not a Mesa PH210, SWR Goliath JR II or even Hartke 2.5XL equivalent - I offer those for comparison as data points where I have some significant time on similar configuration cabs.
 
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#42
reggie hall said:
I was told the 210 xl couldn't handle the b string on a fiver
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That's crap Reggie...get the XL and know it will handle. You did say low vokume gigs i.e. coffee shop like i assume???My 410xl has been the ultimate workhorse for me over the last 20 years. I'm a firm believer in the toughness of the aluminum cones as I have driven mine hard for years and the only problem it has given me is back pain as I've never put casters on it...its the ole handtruck for me as I'm lazy and a glutton for punishment...aren't most bass players anyways??....
 
#43
Billybladez66 said:
That's crap Reggie...get the XL and know it will handle. You did say low vokume gigs i.e. coffee shop like i assume???My 410xl has been the ultimate workhorse for me over the last 20 years. I'm a firm believer in the toughness of the aluminum cones as I have driven mine hard for years and the only problem it has given me is back pain as I've never put casters on it...its the ole handtruck for me as I'm lazy and a glutton for punishment...aren't most bass players anyways??....
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Apples to oranges. The 410XL has a response of 30hz to 5khz. It drives far deeper than the 210 at 50hz.

I agree with everything else you stated.

Hartke's design intentions for the 210 was to supplement the midrange of the 115.

Fortunately, Hartke is one of the manufacturers that posts accurate specs, making it much easier to compare offerings.
 
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tfer said:
Apples to oranges. The 410XL has a response of 30hz to 5khz. It drives far deeper than the 210 at 50hz.

I agree with everything else you stated.

Hartke's design intentions for the 210 was to supplement the midrange of the 115.

Fortunately, Hartke is one of the manufacturers that posts accurate specs, making it much easier to compare offerings.
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U should be working with hartke ,u know your stuff
 
#47
reggie hall said:
U should be working with hartke ,u know your stuff
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I've got a good job, but I'd take an endorsement deal!!
The thing is, I've used or owned pretty much every piece of Hartke gear that been available since the mid 90s. I love the sound of the XL drivers, and that transient attack has guided me to my sound.

It's why I always mic, and never DI, because I lose that quality.

As for your purchases, remember that the 210 is rated for 200 watts, and the 115 is good for 300 watts. If you wire each for 500 watts (probably peaks at 320 watts for an 8 ohm load) via your Epiphani amp, don't crank it.

That's why I'd suggest daisy chaining them. It would supply a 4 ohm load to the amp, which would max out that channel, and give you the full 500 watts split between each cabinet.

Unless you turn the gain and volume all the way up, you'll be within the safe operating limits of the cabinets.
 
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tfer said:
I've got a good job, but I'd take an endorsement deal!!
The thing is, I've used or owned pretty much every piece of Hartke gear that been available since the mid 90s. I love the sound of the XL drivers, and that transient attack has guided me to my sound.

It's why I always mic, and never DI, because I lose that quality.

As for your purchases, remember that the 210 is rated for 200 watts, and the 115 is good for 300 watts. If you wire each for 500 watts (probably peaks at 320 watts for an 8 ohm load) via your Epiphani amp, don't crank it.

That's why I'd suggest daisy chaining them. It would supply a 4 ohm load to the amp, which would max out that channel, and give you the full 500 watts split between each cabinet.

Unless you turn the gain and volume all the way up, you'll be within the safe operating limits of the cabinets.
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im going to daisy chain them like you suggested
 
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Well here it is
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