Neg Feedback Deserving Behavior

[Jackcrow]

I mean the questions seem reasonable for a listing for a bass that claims to have the quality of “Fender Custom Shop”. He also seems to know a lot of the other details. Providing a link to the Warmoth website for the specs doesn’t help at all because there are so many options you can get when you order from them.

But the feedback part is irrelevant since no transaction took place. When I encounter a seller like this, I just move on.

 

[can you hear me]

Ok seller could have been more diplomatic but seriously, if you didn't buy the thing move on with your life.

 

[Double E]

To me it looks like a well put together bass with parts that were thoughtfully chosen. Seller claims that the finishes are by Warmoth. The neck has some nice figuring. Looks like an opportunity to me. I may bid on it myself.

I think to OP is a bit uptight and should have just quietly moved on. The situation did not deserve to be publicized here IMHO.

I better not end up with this bass, damn you...

 

[Kmonk]

Low action and playability are relative to the person playing the bass. Personally, I think some of your questions were unreasonable. You could have easily found most of the answers on the Warmoth site. I think better questions would have been do the truss road and pickups work? Are there any issues with the bass? You got somewhat confrontational when you asked the seller if they actually had the bass. You basically accused him of being a scam artist then called him an ass. I don't think any feedback is required. Both of you should move on.

 

[Tom Gallo]

If you can't answer questions about something you're selling, you shouldn't be selling it online. All the questions OP asked were legitimate and reasonable. Getting information from Warmoth's site isn't going answer questions about this specific instrument.

As a seller, it is MY obligation to be informed about what I'm selling. Not being willing to answer questions is a red flag.

 

[bherman]

Seems like a case of a lazy seller and a hair-trigger buyer. He clearly stated that he took it in trade, thus seems reasonable to not know about the neck specs, etc but the weight would be an easy thing to determine (thus my comment about lazy seller. The OP was being a jerk about the "do you really have the bass" comment. C'mon, we're talking about a bass selling for a few hundred bucks - like someone's going to take out an option on it????

I'm not a jazz bass guy, but it looks like a pretty intriguing bass to me. Welcome to the world of eBay vs Talkbass.

 

[Double E]

If you can't answer questions about something you're selling, you shouldn't be selling it online. All the questions OP asked were legitimate and reasonable. Getting information from Warmoth's site isn't going answer questions about this specific instrument.

As a seller, it is MY obligation to be informed about what I'm selling. Not being willing to answer questions is a red flag.

In this case, a knowledgeable buyer may be able to take advantage of a not so knowledgeable seller. Looks like a great build to me, probably well worth the almost inevitable cheap price it's gonna go for.

Sure it's a risk and if you're picky about the details you'd better stay away.

 

[DWBass]

So if your dad was a physicist, and he dies, and he left a bunch of scientific equipment to his family, you should just keep it and not sell it because you don't know anything about it? Why do we presume this seller knows what a tapered neck and graphite rods even are? This seems like a case where you let the market decide if what you have is worth selling or not.

He knew enough to direct him to the Warmoth website. He wasn't clueless. Just a lazy seller.

 

[Fender_Bender]

To me it looks like a well put together bass with parts that were thoughtfully chosen. Seller claims that the finishes are by Warmoth. The neck has some nice figuring. Looks like an opportunity to me. I may bid on it myself.

I think to OP is a bit uptight and should have just quietly moved on. The situation did not deserve to be publicized here IMHO.

I better not end up with this bass, damn you...

Birdseye maple is fine, but the irregular amount of curl in the grain is potentially troublesome. Maybe it’s been traded because the neck moves around a lot ?.

 

[DavC]

Warmoth has a variety of options for their necks ... going to their website would Not help ... ( i have a couple Warmoth necks ) ...

pics wouldn't help either ... there is some info on the heal of the neck

why do folks think we have a ' crystal ball ' to magically research a mystery item ...???

i wouldn't have even bothered contacting seller after reading .. ' awsum ' ..!!

 

[james condino]

It is $#@%!^& EBAY.........

 

[PraiseBassing]

The seller says he took it on trade, so probably not a musician. Maybe a pawn shop, something like that. This whole conversation is equivalent to something like this:

For sale: 2010 Corolla in great shape

buyer: Hi, how much does the car weight? What’s the compression ratio of the engine? Is it an aluminium alloy? Is there drive ability issues I’m 3rd gear? Can I accelerate from 0-60 without squealing the tires?

Me: I don’t really know, I’m not really a car guy. Here’s a link to the specs

buyer: You ass! Do you even have the car??? Negative feedback!!

It's more comparable to asking if the car has anti-lock brakes. When anit-lock brakes were an option, not a standard feature.

But like it has been said, there is no negative feedback since there was no transaction.

 

[elgranluis]

Does eBay allow sellers to post negative feedback any more ? If so , yes , this behavior deserves negative feedback.

 

[2tonic]

I'm with the OP here.
Seller "TOOK IT ON TRADE" !!!
Tell me the person you know who trades for something with NO knowledge of what they're getting.
"I'll trade you this turd and a donut for that Alembic p.o.s. that's collecting dust in your basement!"
Let's be serious. This is a parts bass, put together by a previous owner who, I am sure, was very proud of it. He probably talked up all it's features, at great length, to the OPs seller, who claims he has "too many guitars" and has to sell it.
This is not a "collector" bass, and has no value beyond it's parts count; i.e. not an investment, not the kind of axe a non-player buys.
Which of your basses has an unknown trussrod, pickup combo, neck profile, or pickguard?
This guy couldn't even bother to give the weight!?
Avoid like the plague!!!

ps. Warmoth necks with the graphite rods come at a sizable premium. I'm positive this feature would be talked up during negotiations.

 

[JeezyMcNuggles]

No transaction took place, so feedback is irrelevant. The seller doesn’t deserve any business of any kind, because calling a potential customer an “ass”, regardless of the customer’s behavior, is no way to do business.

Nope. It's a way to avoid a solid hassle. Chances are, with an attitude like that, if he did buy the bass it would be a whole lot worse for the seller than if he just simply sold it to the next bidder. Any merchant has the right to refuse service to anyone, for any reason. Personality is one of them.

 

[2tonic]

The seller says he took it on trade, so probably not a musician. Maybe a pawn shop, something like that. This whole conversation is equivalent to something like this:

For sale: 2010 Corolla in great shape

buyer: Hi, how much does the car weight? What’s the compression ratio of the engine? Is it an aluminium alloy? Is there drive ability issues I’m 3rd gear? Can I accelerate from 0-60 without squealing the tires?

Me: I don’t really know, I’m not really a car guy. Here’s a link to the specs

buyer: You ass! Do you even have the car??? Negative feedback!!

Sorry, no
I can look up the specs on a 2010 Corolla, it has a base configuration.
Questions might be: Does it have A/C, metallic paint, power convenience group, aftermarket wheel/tire combo, stereo? Other options?
All easily discerned on sight.

Pawn shop?!?!? A shop operator would know EVERYTHING that can be known about an item before they'll lend on/buy it. That's just common sense, and self preservation.

 

[Tazziedevil]

Sorry, no
I can look up the specs on a 2010 Corolla, it has a base configuration.
Questions might be: Does it have A/C, metallic paint, power convenience group, aftermarket wheel/tire combo, stereo? Other options?
All easily discerned on sight.

Pawn shop?!?!? A shop operator would know EVERYTHING that can be known about an item before they'll lend on/buy it. That's just common sense, and self preservation.

the OP asked if the bass had graphite rods in the neck. Without disassembling the bass, how on earth would you know that?
I.e. what alloy is the engine made from?

 

[2tonic]

See post #54.

Edit to add.... OPs "seller" bought this bass from someone (unless he stole it) and if I was that someone, I would tell him fifty times "this neck has expensive graphite rods for stability", and show him Warmoth's price list, to help justify my asking price/trading weight.

 

[Tazziedevil]

Sorry, no
I can look up the specs on a 2010 Corolla, it has a base configuration.
Questions might be: Does it have A/C, metallic paint, power convenience group, aftermarket wheel/tire combo, stereo? Other options?
All easily discerned on sight.

Pawn shop?!?!? A shop operator would know EVERYTHING that can be known about an item before they'll lend on/buy it. That's just common sense, and self preservation.

Op also asked “does it have low action” - entirely meaningless in this context, since low to you isn’t low action to me.

the OP could have asked “what is the string clearance at the 12th fret” which can have an actual answer, but decided not to.

i.e “can I go fast in this car without squealing”?

 

[Tazziedevil]

See post #54.

so we’re to take it on fact because you “think” something would have been discussed?

ok then...