Scenario could have been the seller is selling for someone else who wrote up the description. Still, the seller was unmotivated to do any legwork to answer. He was polite about it, though, and the OP escalated it to a pissing contest.
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Neg Feedback Deserving Behavior
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Scenario could have been the seller is selling for someone else who wrote up the description. Still, the seller was unmotivated to do any legwork to answer. He was polite about it, though, and the OP escalated it to a pissing contest.
This about sums it up. No need for all the drama. Just move along.
I understand your incredulity, but you're practically accusing the seller of fraud in only your second message to him.
That said, I don't in any way condone his name-calling in response.
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Negative feedback isn't for someone being nasty to you, it's for people who get burned on a transaction and need to alert other members that they too may get burned on a transaction. Don't be such a baby.
Please don't leave me negative feedback for my previous post.
But you have to ask more questions when it's a PITA or impossible to do a return. Maybe the question on action was a little much, but the others seemed very reasonable to me for a custom build where there are no standard specs.
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TB: "You bought a bass online and it had an issue? You should have asked the seller about that. Caveat emptor!"
Also TB: "You ask too many questions!"
Also TB: "You ask too many questions!"
Maybe this has been answered, but, you bid on the bass, THEN started asking questions about it ? Why not ask questions first before you bid ?
looking at what was being asked:
neck taper and bracing rods material = pretty specific stuff, not unreasonable to not be able to provide this info if you didn't commission or buy the parts originally.
weight = pretty standard on TB but some sellers might not be used to it / might be unable to answer. not everyone has scales!
"can the action be set low" = this is kind of an unanswerable question as "low action" is somewhat subjective and it's not like the seller is going to re-set up the bass just to answer the query.
mechanical / electronic faults = totally reasonable to ask and should be an easy answer (i.e. no, if it's being sold as working)
Don't get me wrong, I don't think the buyer did anything wrong by asking. And he did bookend the list of questions by explaining why he was asking.
However: faced with 5 separate bits of info of varying levels of ease of answer, I don't think it's surprising that the seller (who it seems got the bass to flip) just sent a link to the product site – which in the case of Warmoth isn't hugely helpful.
Sounds like the sale was DOA but probably no need for escalation on either side.
neck taper and bracing rods material = pretty specific stuff, not unreasonable to not be able to provide this info if you didn't commission or buy the parts originally.
weight = pretty standard on TB but some sellers might not be used to it / might be unable to answer. not everyone has scales!
"can the action be set low" = this is kind of an unanswerable question as "low action" is somewhat subjective and it's not like the seller is going to re-set up the bass just to answer the query.
mechanical / electronic faults = totally reasonable to ask and should be an easy answer (i.e. no, if it's being sold as working)
Don't get me wrong, I don't think the buyer did anything wrong by asking. And he did bookend the list of questions by explaining why he was asking.
However: faced with 5 separate bits of info of varying levels of ease of answer, I don't think it's surprising that the seller (who it seems got the bass to flip) just sent a link to the product site – which in the case of Warmoth isn't hugely helpful.
Sounds like the sale was DOA but probably no need for escalation on either side.
I looked at the ad for 30 seconds. I would bet anything that the item description was cut and pasted from another ad. The seller clearly wrote two sentences (ad title and condition description) and misspelled "awsum," "deffinately" and "giged." Yet there are no misspellings in the paragraph-long item description. Run, don't walk in the other direction.
But to answer your original question, no transaction, no feedback.
But to answer your original question, no transaction, no feedback.
Here's the seller's description:
Gorgeous lightly played, custom made, with FENDER LICENSED Warmoth neck and body Jazz Bass. Poly finishes are both by Warmoth. Well in excess of $1,400.00 worth of parts here, but must sacrifice. Too many guitars. Hurts to let this one go, but can only play one at a time. Swamp Ash body, Birds Eye highly figured maple neck. Pau Ferro fingerboard. Barely a mark on this instrument and definitely NO chips. Hip shot vintage classic reverse wind tuners with matching drop tuner and additional matching regular tuner included. At one time had standard Fender 5 hole bridge with traditional Jazz bridge cover. Could easily be reverted to that. Those covers are readily available on line. Originally wired for 18V active preamp. Decided to go with the more organic sounding passive harness. Hipshot badass style bridge with brass saddle inserts. Bartolini B Axis hum cancelling pickups sound incredible. Head stock logo done with laser cut vinyl by a sign shop using the same material as car graphic wraps. 3 dimensional and beautiful. It’s not OEM Fender, though the quality is much better. Imagine the cost of getting Fender’s custom shop to put this together. also new tweed case
It appears he knows a lot about the instrument he's selling, right down to brass saddle inserts.
^^ definitely seems like the description writer and the seller's message writer are two different people.
i'm confused...who deserves the negative feedback again?
i'm confused...who deserves the negative feedback again?
Usually if there is an item I am interested in and the seller is unable to provide needed info I might take a chance on buying it if the seller has a return policy. However, if I am the seller and someone responds the way the OP did I will probably block them before they have a chance of buying as they have revealed themselves as someone I do not want to deal with.
I threw $450 at it for the instrument at face value based on the crappy pictures and the ad description. I would take a chance at that price. In the event bidding escalated, I needed to know more information so I knew whether to stop at $600, $800, or $??
Lmao so this guy has a bass and knows no info then gets upset when you ask the reasonable question or do you have it?
The guy is clearly a jackass.
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So Anyway, it's a Jazz Bass for $300.
There's only so much effort that goes into selling it....and it's eBay, not TalkBass.
There's only so much effort that goes into selling it....and it's eBay, not TalkBass.
I don't think this is really a good analogy at all. It would be more like if it was a home built car from custom spec parts and the seller was the second owner.
My feeling on it is that the seller should have been able to answer at least the question of if it has any mechanical or electrical issues. As an eBay seller myself, I would never treat a potential customer the way this seller did, even if I did find the question a bit tactless. But oh well, in the end I think it's just important to conduct yourself professionally and if the seller is not answering your questions in a way that would make you confident moving forward with the purchase, just consider it a dodged bullet and move on.
